True Target spell


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First time poster, first time on site, really. But I came on a spell that seemed a bit underpowered for it's level even with the most generous interpretation. Still, true Target is a 1 action spell and that is always nice to have in this system. The thing that bothers me, is it seems like it would buff the entire party's ability to attack the target. The problem though, is that the actual wording of the spell seems to limit the advantages it provides to the very next attack that anyone makes against it(Friend or foe).

The new True Strike spell by comparison is amazing. But that's only taking up a 1st level spell slot. And can't be countered by an enemy shaman throwing a rock at their bbeg.


Yes. It's very bad.


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I think the intention is that the first attack by every attacker in their round until the beginning of the caster's next turn gets the benefit. There is no way that this would be a 7th level spell when all it is is a True Strike usable by one other person on one attack. Even with my interpretation, I don't see this as a 7th level spell.


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yeah, RAI seems to be "first attack by everyone within those 60ft that you project the image/future to"

something like mass True strike really.

Given that this can easily be 6+ attacks (so 6+ true strikes with 1 action) in a party, i don't see it as a bad spell. Still needs to be eratta'ed to actually work.


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This is one of those cases of 99% chance it's a typo. The intent is clearly that it provides the True Strike benefit to the first attack of each person who attacks them before your next turn, which is CRAZY good.


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There does seem to be a contradiction between the summary of the True Target spell and its actual description.

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I think a "their" became a "the" at some point In the sentence "On their first attack roll against the target" and changed the apparent meaning. Our diviner has the spell and we've been running it the way it's intended. It is extremely powerful, especially with our larger-than-four-player group, and the player of the diviner thinks overpowered for 1 action but I keep saying "It's level 7, it can be that powerful!"


Mark Seifter wrote:
I think a "their" became a "the" at some point In the sentence "On their first attack roll against the target" and changed the apparent meaning. Our diviner has the spell and we've been running it the way it's intended. It is extremely powerful, especially with our larger-than-four-player group, and the player of the diviner thinks overpowered for 1 action but I keep saying "It's level 7, it can be that powerful!"

I looked at the linnorms in the bestiary and don't understand how they survive against a couple of dozen reasonably powerful Ulfen warriors with bows, cold iron arrows, and supported by a 13th level bard with True Target and Inspire Heroics. Poor little pincushions.


Mark Seifter wrote:
I think a "their" became a "the" at some point In the sentence "On their first attack roll against the target" and changed the apparent meaning. Our diviner has the spell and we've been running it the way it's intended. It is extremely powerful, especially with our larger-than-four-player group, and the player of the diviner thinks overpowered for 1 action but I keep saying "It's level 7, it can be that powerful!"

As long as you're talking about how things played in your playtest games, can you give any hints about how House of Imaginary Walls worked for a Bard? Does it prevent an enemy who believes in the wall from striking through it with weapons, casting targeted spells through it, or AOEs originating from that enemy from going through it?

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Xenocrat wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
I think a "their" became a "the" at some point In the sentence "On their first attack roll against the target" and changed the apparent meaning. Our diviner has the spell and we've been running it the way it's intended. It is extremely powerful, especially with our larger-than-four-player group, and the player of the diviner thinks overpowered for 1 action but I keep saying "It's level 7, it can be that powerful!"
I looked at the linnorms in the bestiary and don't understand how they survive against a couple of dozen reasonably powerful Ulfen warriors with bows, cold iron arrows, and supported by a 13th level bard with True Target and Inspire Heroics. Poor little pincushions.

It's probably hard to get that many Ulfen warriors who are that powerful to all team up on the hunt.


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Mark Seifter wrote:
I think a "their" became a "the" at some point In the sentence "On their first attack roll against the target" and changed the apparent meaning. Our diviner has the spell and we've been running it the way it's intended. It is extremely powerful, especially with our larger-than-four-player group, and the player of the diviner thinks overpowered for 1 action but I keep saying "It's level 7, it can be that powerful!"

Any chance this could make it into the next round of errata? Pretty please?

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