Monk Spellcasting Ability Mod?


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Monks are able to get Ki spells, a kind of Focus Spell. If they do, the choose wether to be Divine or Occult and become trained in spell attacks and spell DCs for that magic tradition...But what ability is used for their spellcasting ability when calculating their spell attack modifier or spell dc?

Part of me wants to say WIS simply because Monks have traditionally required WIS for abilities.

Part of me wants to say CHA simply because CHA is often used for SLAs for innate magic.

PArt of me wants to say whichever was chosen as their Key ability score, simply to keep things simple. But how would that work, for say a Barbarian that multiclasses as Monk? What about if that Barb/Monk splices in some Sorc at higher levels?


It's supposed to be Wisdom, but it was left out of the final rules by mistake. I believe this was clarified by one of the devs, but I'm not sure exactly where. Someone else can probably point you to it.

There's a little textual evidence in the sample monk sidebar on page 162, where it says wisdom is an important stat because it empowers your ki spells.


its in the sidebar, which is part of the rulebook. monks use wisdom

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ikarinokami wrote:
its in the sidebar, which is part of the rulebook. monks use wisdom

What page? I have looked up and down the monk chapter and not have not been able to find this.


Partizanski wrote:
ikarinokami wrote:
its in the sidebar, which is part of the rulebook. monks use wisdom
What page? I have looked up and down the monk chapter and not have not been able to find this.

I don't see it, either.


Gisher wrote:
Partizanski wrote:
ikarinokami wrote:
its in the sidebar, which is part of the rulebook. monks use wisdom
What page? I have looked up and down the monk chapter and not have not been able to find this.
I don't see it, either.

Page 162. It's kinda a hot-button-issue on these forums at the moment, but the Sample monk on this page says "...Wisdom empowers your Ki Spells..."

Apparently this is something that's supposed to be in there explicitly, but was somehow forgotten during the editing process.


K-kun the Insane wrote:
Gisher wrote:
Partizanski wrote:
ikarinokami wrote:
its in the sidebar, which is part of the rulebook. monks use wisdom
What page? I have looked up and down the monk chapter and not have not been able to find this.
I don't see it, either.

Page 162. It's kinda a hot-button-issue on these forums at the moment, but the Sample monk on this page says "...Wisdom empowers your Ki Spells..."

Apparently this is something that's supposed to be in there explicitly, but was somehow forgotten during the editing process.

Thanks! I see it now.

Silver Crusade

I assumed that it would be WIS if you picked Divine, or INT if you picked Occult, since Occultism is an INT skill.


Also on page 2 of the errata: Page 157: In the Key Terms sidebar, under the Ki Spells entry, add “and your key spellcasting ability is Wisdom” to the end of the second paragraph.

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