Crane flutter's "reposte" and MAP


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I have a question about the sixth level monk feat crane flutter which gives the following reaction:

Your circumstance bonus to AC from Crane Stance increases to +3 against the triggering attack. If the attack misses you, you can immediately make a crane wing Strike against the attacker at a –2 penalty, even if the attacker isn’t within your reach.

Am I correct, given you are using flurry each turn, that this retaliatory strike is being made at a -10 penalty? If so, how good do you folks think this feat is? +3 AC seems large, but I'm not sure it offsets taking 2 feats and attacking with d6's.


Del_Taco_Eater wrote:

I have a question about the sixth level monk feat crane flutter which gives the following reaction:

Your circumstance bonus to AC from Crane Stance increases to +3 against the triggering attack. If the attack misses you, you can immediately make a crane wing Strike against the attacker at a –2 penalty, even if the attacker isn’t within your reach.

Am I correct, given you are using flurry each turn, that this retaliatory strike is being made at a -10 penalty? If so, how good do you folks think this feat is? +3 AC seems large, but I'm not sure it offsets taking 2 feats and attacking with d6's.

No, attacks you make outside of your turn almost never incur MAP.


Awesome! I was deceived by how explicitly AoO calls out that "This Strike doesn’t count toward your multiple attack penalty, and your multiple attack penalty doesn’t apply to this Strike."

Crane flutter gives no such reassurance.


Del_Taco_Eater wrote:

Awesome! I was deceived by how explicitly AoO calls out that "This Strike doesn’t count toward your multiple attack penalty, and your multiple attack penalty doesn’t apply to this Strike."

Crane flutter gives no such reassurance.

pg 278: "The multiple attack penalty doesn’t apply to attacks you make when it isn’t your turn (such as attacks made as part of a reaction)".

So AoO is clarifying, not overriding.

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