Cleric Warpriest Doctrine


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So looking under the warpriest doctrine it says "If your deities weapon is simple you gain the deadly simplicity cleric feat". Now for a player who is playing a Dwarf if they take the weapon familiarity which then makes the warhammer simple does that mean they get that feat? I am assuming not since the weapon would not be considered simple initially. I am assuming that would be helpful to classes that can only use simple weapons.


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They do not get the feat for two reasons.
1) Dwarven Weapon Proficiency only makes martial dwarf weapons simple for the purposes of determining proficiency.
2) Warhammers are not dwarf weapons, so Dwarven Weapon Proficiency does not make them simple weapons. A dwarf weapon is a weapon with the Dwarf trait, which at this point are only of the clan dagger and dwarven war axe.


Red Metal wrote:

They do not get the feat for two reasons.

1) Dwarven Weapon Proficiency only makes martial dwarf weapons simple for the purposes of determining proficiency.
2) Warhammers are not dwarf weapons, so Dwarven Weapon Proficiency does not make them simple weapons. A dwarf weapon is a weapon with the Dwarf trait, which at this point are only of the clan dagger and dwarven war axe.

And.. that was fast! Thanks I figured if anything it would be because the weapon is martial to begin with and its d8. Seems it is only there to pump d4 and d6 damage types up. But your other reasons make sense more then the fact of the weapon being martial initially be the deity. And looking back it only says you are trained in those weapons looking further down makes sense. Thank you!


Okay then what replaces this feat? I can see this if you have a simple weapon, but then your deity should replace this feat with domain initiate feat if you do not need it.


Kringress wrote:
Okay then what replaces this feat? I can see this if you have a simple weapon, but then your deity should replace this feat with domain initiate feat if you do not need it.

I think its considered a bonus either way. Either you get a better simple weapon, or access to a weapon that is not simple.


Kringress wrote:
Okay then what replaces this feat? I can see this if you have a simple weapon, but then your deity should replace this feat with domain initiate feat if you do not need it.

The whole point of the feat, and Warpriests getting it, is to make Warpriests using a simple favored weapon good. If you go and give a different buff to martial favored weapons, you're right back to martial being much better.

In fact, the martial weapons are still generally better, because they have more traits.

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