Garth Ennis' "The Boys"


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Wikipedia wrote:
The Boys takes place in "a world where superheroes embrace the darker side of their massive celebrity and fame" and "revolves around a group of vigilantes known informally as 'The Boys,' who set out to take down corrupt superheroes with no more than blue-collar grit and a willingness to fight dirty."

Trailer

The Boys premieres July 26, 2019 on Amazon Video.

Edit: And the show is already renewed for season two.


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Bummer, I won't watch on Amazon.


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Yeah, I don't have Prime either (and I'm trying to limit Amazon purchases to can't-find-it-elsewhere situations).


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Hm.

On the one hand, I enjoyed the comic (as Ennis has loathed superheroes for a long time, and, like Alan Moore, that loathing works best when he just breaks his own pastiches instead of screwing with someone else's).

On the other hand...

Everything I see in these trailers, it feels like there's something missing- and I don't mean fidelity to the events/nationalities of the comics, either, there's some kind of tonal... absence.


Oh boy! Wonder if they will do MM's mom.


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Cole Deschain wrote:


On the one hand, I enjoyed the comic...

On the other hand...

Everything I see in these trailers, it feels like there's something missing- and I don't mean fidelity to the events/nationalities of the comics, either, there's some kind of tonal... absence.

Agreed. The above trailer seems to want to convey "dark comedy", which is no more appropriate for The Boys than it would have been for Watchmen of V for Vendetta.


Well, there's plenty of comedy in the The Boys and it's definitely dark. Much more so than either Watchmen or V. And much less of anything else to work with, so I'm not sure where else you could go with it.

I got sucked into The Boys for awhile, but like most of Ennis's work that I've read, it just felt empty in the end. Too gratuitous. Too over the top edgy and cynical and violent and not enough point to it all in the end.


thejeff wrote:

Well, there's plenty of comedy in the The Boys and it's definitely dark. Much more so than either Watchmen or V. And much less of anything else to work with, so I'm not sure where else you could go with it.

There was..I don't know...absurdity? in The Boys, mostly in the portrayal of the superheroes. I personally wouldn't have called it comedy, but I'm playing semantics.

The trailer, though not descending into parody, seemed a little more heavily tilted toward comedy than I'd have said the comic warranted. It certainly wasn't the "dark" part of the trailer I was having issues with.

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Watched the first episode and liked it. It definitely had gore, but not over the top just to be over the top. In a way, it's probably the best depiction I've seen of what would happen when a superhero hits a regular person.

I also liked that in terms of plot, the first episode mostly handles everything in the trailer (not every scene in the trailer was in Ep 1, but every bit of plot was), which leaves the rest of the season to develop the plot without it having been spoiled (at least for those who haven't read the comic, which I haven't). Looking forward to seeing the rest.

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I'm really enjoying this series. Its forward thinking about what corporate owned superheroes would look and act like feels very on-par with what any reasonable cynic would imagine.

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This show is awesome, can't wait for season 2

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Hama wrote:

This show is awesome, can't wait for season 2

That final scene was a punch to the gut of a season cliffhanger.

Also, Karl Urban continues being an International Treasure. His manic Billy Butcher was definitely a highlight.


Are they actually adapting the story line from the comics or just the basic concept?
If so, how far did the season get?

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Never read the comics, but skimming the wikipedia page, it looks like a pretty loose adaptation, going more for themes, tone, and feel than straight up adapted for television.

Examples:

Spoiler:
Buther's squad has already disbanded for a significant time after Lamplighter killed (female) Mallory's grandkids. Butcher brings them out of retirement once he hooks up w/ Hugh.

Compound V has been changed to basically a Superhero PCP / Steroids / Heroine mix that juices the Supes.

Hugh isn't Scottish (and Simon Pegg's Hugh's dad is struggling with a generic American accent), and works at a Radio Shack type joint before the story.

From wikipedia, the adaptation is mostly The Name of the Game and Cherry arcs.

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archmagi1 wrote:
Hama wrote:

This show is awesome, can't wait for season 2

That final scene was a punch to the gut of a season cliffhanger.

Also, Karl Urban continues being an International Treasure. His manic Billy Butcher was definitely a highlight.

Oh yes, that left me with my mouth hanging open. I mean I anticipated something like that, but still.

Props to the guy who does Homelander.


Only seen episode 1 so far. gonna watch more. It looks like it is going to be a show focused on political commentary. Particularity capitalism. The nature if a rich and powerful enough celebrity can get away with anything if they throw enough money at it.

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thejeff wrote:
I got sucked into The Boys for awhile, but like most of Ennis's work that I've read, it just felt empty in the end. Too gratuitous. Too over the top edgy and cynical and violent and not enough point to it all in the end.

I saw an interview with the actor who played Homelander, and he mentioned that he had read the graphic novel, and preferred that it be adapted, than ported straight over, quipping that the books, as written, would turn into a show that appealed to a much more limited audience. (Adventures in Babysitting laughed when he described the target audience of such a show as 'people in prison...')

I loved the dark humor (is it laugh at Deep and all his stupid misguided attempts to save marine life gone tragically awry?), and watching it made me want to watch Banshee again, to see more of Homelander *not* being an incredible super-jerk. :)

Looking forward to a second season, and hopefully learning more about Queen Maeve and anything at all about Black Noir (who seems kind of autistic / idiot savant, at times, good at all sorts of things, except relating to people...).


Assuming Black Noir is handled here like he is in the comic, there is a Huge Secret about him, and the audience is unlikely to find out anything about him before an eventual Big Reveal.


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De-fanging Ennis works seems to be in vogue now.

C'est la vie.


Episode 2. That random thug who is way braver then I'll ever be. He saw his friend get blasted 10 feet into a car by a beam of light and thought it was a good idea to attack the person doing the blasting.

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Episode 2. That random thug who is way braver then I'll ever be. He saw his friend get blasted 10 feet into a car by a beam of light and thought it was a good idea to attack the person doing the blasting.

I think he's just stupid.


Yeah you right.

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I am amused that the shallowest character possibly in that entire world calls himself 'the Deep.' :)

I guess that counts as irony, since he seems blissfully unaware of it.

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Just finished it today. Loved it, one of the best adult takes on superheroes since Watchmen IMO. I never read the comic.

Anyone else think they made Homelander's costume to remind people of the Judges' uniforms in the Judge Dread comics?


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Just finished it today. Loved it, one of the best adult takes on superheroes since Watchmen IMO. I never read the comic.

Anyone else think they made Homelander's costume to remind people of the Judges' uniforms in the Judge Dread comics?

Ohhhh! Dredd would be mighty insulted. The Law he is but he is not above it. He has even let himself be imprisoned when he broke it.


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