During our first playthrough of Dragon's Demand 2B scenario (A Piece of the Auction), the interaction between the location Plaza and Scenario rules became somewhat unclear:
When you encounter a boon from a location, before acting, succeed at … If you acquire the boon, put it into a winnings pile
When you would encounter a boon, draw a new one of the same type, encounter 1 and banish the other
If any boon is flipped over at the start of the exploration, another one is drawn from the box. But the scenario power states that the boon has to be encountered from a location. Does it mean that if the original boon is banished as we like the other one better, the scenario power does not trigger as the boon did not come from a location? That seems really harsh, if that is true. And what would become with such boon - would it go directly into character's hand if acquired and to the box if it wasn't acquired?Can anyone shine a little bit of (wall of) light on this? Thank you
As a side note, we forgot to put the non-acquired boons to a hoard pile, which only a second reading through the text (now) revealed. Ugh, I have to read more carefully. Still, with Seelah and her Diplomacy + upgraded "Crusade" ability (reacharge top card if it's armor or blessing to aid local checks) along with Ezren's Magic-trait 1d4 shenanigans, we acquired so many boons it was OK. We even had to throw away a Keen Rapier as we had too many nice magic weapons for both of us, counting Wyrmsmite.
Yes but you have to select the one you encounter BEFORE rolling to see if the difficulty will be higher (this is important since you have to decide what level of risk you take).
OK, having Hakon and Lem in the group helps A LOT.
When does Merisiel's Evade come into play?
Steps I'm taking.
Meri flips the Hour. Benefaction, no effecct.
Flips over top card. Mace.
Draws another weapon. Flaming Mace (Awesome)
Chooses to encounter the Flaming Mace, banishes the Mace.
Now, since she is encountering the Flaming Mace, she has to attempt the Diplomacy check. Fails with a 1. Increase check of Flaming Mace, 10+8=18 Strength or Melee check.
Meri NOW Evades.
Flaming Mace gets shuffled into location.
Hope that Valeros encounters the Flaming Mace.
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The option to evade must be taken before any roll to defeat/acquire. Once you make any checks to defeat/acquire, you suffer/enjoy the consequences of the check and may no longer evade.
In the location described above, you choose to either encounter the card (and thus draw a second card to pick which one you encounter), or you evade. So once you draw the second card, you're may no longer evade. (I'm not 100% certain on this one, but that's how I play it.)
I got excited. And tried to cheat.
Meri can't evade because Valeros and Lem are at the Plaza watching her. So this is all null.
However, if she was playing solo, I think you're right and wrong. Her power says, "When you encounter a card..." So she has to have a card to encounter first. And once you have the card, you have to draw a second and choose one. I haven't made any rolls yet.
If I have to evade before a check, I wonder if the scenario roll happens before I evade or not. (Not that it matters, she's going to fail)
Ugh, it looks like this one might be thornier than it seems. Contrary to BT's point, in Core the Evasion Effects step is after the When You Encounter step, so RAW you would draw a boon from the location, draw a matching boon from the box, banish one/encounter the other, THEN evade (or not) THEN ("Before Acting") roll the Cha/Dip/Per check.
edit: I was going to clarify my point, but skizzerz maganged to ninja me with a better summary.
Check the encounter sequence. Nothing thorny about it—the rules are very clear as to when you apply each effect.
Encountering a Card
1. Apply any effects that happen when you encounter a card.
2. Apply any evasion effects.
3. Villain Step: Attempt to guard distant locations.
4. Apply any effects that happen before acting.
5. Attempt the check.
6. Attempt the next check, if needed.
7. Apply any effects that happen after acting.
8. Resolve the encounter.
9. Avenge the encounter.
10. Villain Step: If you defeat the villain, close the villain’s location. 11. Villain Step: Determine whether the villain escapes.
12. Villain Step: If the villain has nowhere to escape to, you win!
From the OP, the Storybook power is before acting (step 4). The Plaza power is when you encounter (step 1). Merisiel can evade during step 2.
So, could someone explain to me why a boon summoned by the Plaza's effect counts as "from the location"? Keep in mind that "Location" is just the new term to mean "Location Deck", since 'deck' is now exclusively used to refer to character decks.
I would think that, by nature of it being summoned (or "New", whatever) it's from the vault, not a location. Would the new drawn boon even be shuffled back into the location if evaded? What rule says to treat it as if it's from the location?
I'm clearly missing something here - I understand the intent, but not the RAW.
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