
Dardanius |

Do I need to keep track of the negative levels, or are we just skipping ahead for our journey out of the temple of doom?
I suppose I have a similar question about my HP deficit.

Mysterious Storyteller |

Do I need to keep track of the negative levels, or are we just skipping ahead for our journey out of the temple of doom?
I suppose I have a similar question about my HP deficit.
Depends on what the party plans to do. If you are going to keep exploring you will need to keep track. If you are going to try and get back through the exit portal, maybe not as much but you still have to make your way back across the desert....

Turran |

Sweet Hit Points: 1d8 ⇒ 5

Kunoichi Ashikawa aka Drummer |

Not a bad deal
I loose 9hp and gain 1 leveling up!!
Think you get +4 total
Roll +1, toughness +1, con +1, fav class +1
Dardanius |

Think I'm all set, unless anyone has a better suggestion for Feat.
I'm leaning toward taking Extra Lay On Hands. But Reward of Life was also a little interesting. I think the most recent fight made me think that we are in need of more healing).
Dardanius still does not qualify for Manyshot (maybe if he makes it to Level 12).

Dardanius |

Dagor, why is your LoH healing for 5d6? I was interpreting 1d6 for every two levels as 4d6 for a level 8-9 paladin. Am I reading that wrong, or is there a feat I can/should take?
Thanks

Dagor Nuin Giliath |

Dar
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/greater-mercy/

Dardanius |

Oh, man. I saw that feat on your sheet, but I confused Mercy with Channel for some reason.
Can't believe I missed it when I was looking around for feats this level. Seems better from an expected value perspective. I think Dar will take it too!

Dagor Nuin Giliath |

Oh, man. I saw that feat on your sheet, but I confused Mercy with Channel for some reason.
Can't believe I missed it when I was looking around for feats this level. Seems better from an expected value perspective. I think Dar will take it too!
It’s a pretty good feat, I debated taking it or extra LOH, a bit of a toss up.

Dardanius |

I did not take the time to do too much thinking about this, but I think you're right. At least at level 8-9
Greater Mercy = Level * 5d6 = 157.5 expected HP (if no conditions)
Extra LoH = Level+2 * 4d6 = 154
No idea if that holds up or how to add in that Extra LoH is basically one use of ~Hero's Defiance~

Dagor Nuin Giliath |

Sorry was out backpacking in the mountains and no service.

Turran |

Turran puchases a Belt of Giant Str +4, +1 amulet of Natural Armor, upgrade to +3 Chainmail and +2 Cloak of Resistance

Dagor Nuin Giliath |

Dardanius,
Magic item ideas
Belt of Physical Might +2 Str/+2 Dex
10,000 gp
Upgrade bow from +1 to +2
6,000 gp
+1 ring of protection
2,000 gp
Upgrade armor from +1 to +2
3,000 gp
Amulet of natural armor +1
2,000 gp
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/a-b/bracers-of-the-merc iful-knight/
+4 levels for LOH
15,600 gp
Pearl of power level 1
1000gp

Dardanius |

Thanks for the advice, Dag.
I think I have ~5200 gp leftover. Not sure if I should trade that for something else, or just buy a pearl of power and save. +1 Warhammer?
I'd like advice on shields. I feel like I still don't understand the debuffs a heavy steel shield gives versus a light steel shield. My reading is that the armor check penalty wouldn't apply until I actually equipped the shield. Is that your ruling Mysterious?
In other words, should I spring for mithral here too?
Second, would the heavy shield take longer to don?
Otherwise, here is the list of what I've bought
312 = Mwk Warhammer (now we'll never see another skelly)
20 = Heavy Steel Shield
10,000 = Belt of Physical Might +2 STR & DEX
6,100 = +2 Composite (+4) Bow upgradde
2,000 = Ring of Protection
2,000 = Amulet of Natural Armor
3,000 = +2 Mithral Chain Shirt upgrade

Dagor Nuin Giliath |

Buy a shield made of darkwood.
Darkwood
Source: PZO1110
HP/inch 10; Hardness 5; Cost To determine the price of a darkwood item, use the original weight but add 10 gp per pound to the price of a masterwork version of that item.
This rare magic wood is as hard as normal wood but very light.
Any wooden or mostly wooden item (such as a bow or spear) made from darkwood is considered a masterwork item and weighs only half as much as a normal wooden item of that type. Items not normally made of wood or only partially of wood (such as a battleaxe or a mace) either cannot be made from darkwood or do not gain any special benefit from being made of darkwood. The armor check penalty of a darkwood shield is lessened by 2 compared to an ordinary shield of its type.

Mysterious Storyteller |

Thanks for the advice, Dag.
I think I have ~5200 gp leftover. Not sure if I should trade that for something else, or just buy a pearl of power and save. +1 Warhammer?
I'd like advice on shields. I feel like I still don't understand the debuffs a heavy steel shield gives versus a light steel shield. My reading is that the armor check penalty wouldn't apply until I actually equipped the shield. Is that your ruling Mysterious?
In other words, should I spring for mithral here too?
Second, would the heavy shield take longer to don?
Otherwise, here is the list of what I've bought
312 = Mwk Warhammer (now we'll never see another skelly)
20 = Heavy Steel Shield
10,000 = Belt of Physical Might +2 STR & DEX
6,100 = +2 Composite (+4) Bow upgradde
2,000 = Ring of Protection
2,000 = Amulet of Natural Armor
3,000 = +2 Mithral Chain Shirt upgrade
Given how often you should be using a shield you should buy the cheapest one that gives you the best AC bump. Check penalties only apply if equipped.

Dardanius |

Darkwood sounds like the right move. I suppose the Darkwood description Dagor/Amarth implies I need to pick a shield that has the "wooden" descriptor.
So I'll go with a Heavy Wooden Shield for 7 + 150 (mwk) + 100 (darkwood) gold.

Amarth Nuin Giliath |

Is this campaign on hiatus? or finished....just curious
Don’t know Weed but it’s difficult to keep a campaign going when posting is sporadic and infrequent.

Turran |

Yes, sorry about that. I find myself at a loss of what to do. Embarassing really.

Weed |

totally understand
i would like more dialogue and role playing which i am more suited to...
but i found the numbers..which is obvious isnt my strong poing...at times overwhelmed the narrative...
either way....a merry christmas to all

Dardanius |

I'll second what Turran said.
It's also been a pretty tough year at work and I fell out of the routine of posting every morning.
Either way, I appreciate the story you've been telling, Mysterious!

Dardanius |

Mysterious, I was unaware of the Point Blank Master Feat, and I definitely want to take it!
It looks like the prereq would be Weapon Specialization..
But when I looked at that feat, it says the prereqs are "Proficiency, Weapon Focus, Fighter Level 4." I am assuming those commas are conjunctive, but I wanted to get your ruling.
For the record, Dar already has proficiency and weapon focus.

Mysterious Storyteller |

Mysterious, I was unaware of the Point Blank Master Feat, and I definitely want to take it!
It looks like the prereq would be Weapon Specialization..
But when I looked at that feat, it says the prereqs are "Proficiency, Weapon Focus, Fighter Level 4." I am assuming those commas are conjunctive, but I wanted to get your ruling.
For the record, Dar already has proficiency and weapon focus.
Spaced that it required specialization; sorry!
Yes, it would require 4 levels of fighter.
:(

Amarth Nuin Giliath |

Mysterious,
If it’s okay with you I may want to re-choose some spells. Not 100% sure but am taking a look hoping the option is open.

Amarth Nuin Giliath |

Out until Sunday, bot as necessary.

Irissë |

hp rolls: 3d8 ⇒ (8, 3, 4) = 15

Irissë |

New character ready to go.

Weed |

Feb 20, 2022, 05:34 pm | FLAG | LIST | REPLY
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AC 21; HP 80 INIT +2 Perception +19
Melee:
Saves: Casamir Azmeren
great advice....gonna spend the rest on belt of giant strength
gonna take Cleave for 7th lvl feat
yes i stand corrected...adjust my AC back to 19...
going with axes for weapon training...
thanks again
i should have added this but didnt way back then

Mysterious Storyteller |

Feb 20, 2022, 05:34 pm | FLAG | LIST | REPLY
+
AC 21; HP 80 INIT +2 Perception +19
Melee:
Saves: Casamir Azmeren
great advice....gonna spend the rest on belt of giant strength
gonna take Cleave for 7th lvl feat
yes i stand corrected...adjust my AC back to 19...
going with axes for weapon training...
thanks againi should have added this but didnt way back then
On that note, don't forget that you qualify for 1d6 of sneak attack damage from time to time (win initiative, surprise, etc)

Turran |

Thank you for your benevolence, Lord of Mysteriousness