Non Chaotic Non evil shadow creatures


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I am not the most familiar with the bestiary. Apart from just applying the Shadow template to a creature.

Are there any canon non Chaotic non evil shadow creatures out there?

*Chaotic Good I will accept


The connotation of "shadow" in pathfinder derrives from a very limited number of sources.

One of the most prominent is a vague connection to the Negative Energy Plane. These sorts of shadow creatures are slowly losing their vitality in some form. Usually colors or emotions.

The other big inspiration for shadow creatures are being such as the Outer Gods who come from the darkness and represent corruption and madness. Beings who create horror stories from their mere presence.

As such, there really hasn't been a strong push to make anything other than chaotic evil beings to fit this mold. You can make a case for neutral, but its a weak case. None of them are benevolent.


Not canon, that I know of...but why does it have to be canon? If you want a good creature of shadow, just do it. I have even used reformed demons.


From the shadowdancer prestige class in the core rulebook:

Summon Shadow (Su)
At 3rd level, a shadowdancer can summon a shadow, an undead shade. Unlike a normal shadow, this shadow’s alignment matches that of the shadowdancer, and the creature cannot create spawn.


Er . . . I must be missing something. Isn't the Shadow Plane more or less neutral-aligned? Fetchlings aren't particularly inclined to chaos or evil, nor are shaes, d'ziriaks, nor the occasional wayang.


blahpers wrote:
Er . . . I must be missing something. Isn't the Shadow Plane more or less neutral-aligned? Fetchlings aren't particularly inclined to chaos or evil, nor are shaes, d'ziriaks, nor the occasional wayang.

I think it's kind of like a lesser version of what's going on with the negative energy plane. Since negative energy is not evil, and indeed the negative energy plane is not evil... it's just that because the NEP is inimical to ordinary life, pretty much everything living there (except Danavas, who were imprisoned there) is evil.

So the shadow plane and negative energy planes are neutrally aligned, with a whole bunch of evil things (and almost no good things) living there.


blahpers wrote:
Er . . . I must be missing something. Isn't the Shadow Plane more or less neutral-aligned? Fetchlings aren't particularly inclined to chaos or evil, nor are shaes, d'ziriaks, nor the occasional wayang.

True, but I thought he was asking for actual shadows. Perhaps I misunderstood.

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I played an AP that had a Chaotic Neutral Shadow Dragon. The text explained that he was only Chaotic Neutral because he was an atheist. We all thought it was pretty funny.


blahpers wrote:
Fetchlings

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blahpers wrote:
Er . . . I must be missing something. Isn't the Shadow Plane more or less neutral-aligned? Fetchlings aren't particularly inclined to chaos or evil, nor are shaes, d'ziriaks, nor the occasional wayang.

On that topic... Shae.

They are pretty much the core example of what this thread is looking for- they are fairly rational shadow creatures without the moral hangups of alignment. They wear clothes only for appearances sake when dealing with 'lesser beings'. A bit of at will shadow related magic, blurr effect.

They can be a bit of a strong flavor. They have a whole "I am a superior life form" thing... but since their origin is from humans that learned the secrets of shadows... that can be well deserved, since they might be literally self made men/women (or both? I kind of assume that being a shadow opens up.... 'options'. They are noted for having harems).


PossibleCabbage wrote:
blahpers wrote:
Er . . . I must be missing something. Isn't the Shadow Plane more or less neutral-aligned? Fetchlings aren't particularly inclined to chaos or evil, nor are shaes, d'ziriaks, nor the occasional wayang.

I think it's kind of like a lesser version of what's going on with the negative energy plane. Since negative energy is not evil, and indeed the negative energy plane is not evil... it's just that because the NEP is inimical to ordinary life, pretty much everything living there (except Danavas, who were imprisoned there) is evil.

So the shadow plane and negative energy planes are neutrally aligned, with a whole bunch of evil things (and almost no good things) living there.

That's the thing; I don't see any evidence that almost no good things live in the Shadow Plane.

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