Does bardic performance start instantly?


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DM says i have to prep my song using a standard, move, or swift. Then on my next turn the song actually gives bonuses. Can anyone confirm this please?


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The first part is correct by the rules. For the second part, ask your DM where this delay is mentioned. You do have to maintain the performance each round if you want it to continue, but I do not recall seeing any place where any delay in the performance's effects is mentioned. In Pathfinder, such a delay would have to be mentioned for it to occur.


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I agree with David knott 242. It sounds to me like the GM is mis-remembering a rule from somewhere else.

Bardic performance works instantly: A 7th pevel bard could activate the Inspire Courage bardic performance as a move action, then make an attack as a standard action (in the same round) and receive the bonus from Inspire courage on the attack.


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Instantly. 3rd opinion.

What it takes to start depends on level but maintaining is free. It takes effect as soon as the appropriate action is taken


Paarrthurnax wrote:
DM says i have to prep my song using a standard, move, or swift. Then on my next turn the song actually gives bonuses. ...

first sentence is true.

second sentence is false.

initiative tends to be sequential and individual as it is there to order player actions. Once you roll the performance check(if required) the effect should start in the area of effect(AoE).
Maybe he misspoke and meant after your turn, which is effectively correct. Anyways, talk to him. It could be an honest mistake or intentional.
BTW - make up little cards to throw out on the playing field which tell people what the bonuses are... they tend to forget.


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The bards verbal components for all spells and songs are "did you add in my bonuses?"

True facts.

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Paarrthurnax wrote:
DM says i have to prep my song using a standard, move, or swift. Then on my next turn the song actually gives bonuses. Can anyone confirm this please?

There is no such thing as "prepping" your performance. Those actions are the actions required to start your performance. Bonuses are granted immediately once you've started, just the same as if I'd spent a standard action to cast a spell.


Cavall wrote:

The bards verbal components for all spells and songs are "did you add in my bonuses?"

True facts.

This is the most legit thing I've read today.

Edit: Also, what everybody else said. You does the action, you gets the effects immediately. You don't have to wait a turn for haste or bless to start working, and bardic performance is no different.

Grand Lodge

Just so it’s clear: standard bardic performance is a standard action that get reduced to a move then a swift at levels 7 and 13, respectively, and maintained as a free round each round thereafter unless you choose to change performances (effectively stopping one and starting it again)

You don’t prep it beforehand and you can divide your total rounds of performance per day in any way you want. As soon as the action to start a performance is done you and your allies gain the bonuses (or enemies take the penalties, depending on the performance)

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