In Appreciation of Developers

[Shiroi]

I know 80% or more of the feedback I've read appears very disheartening. I know so much is changing and so many people are unhappy with change. I know this is stressful, and necessary, and that in a play test it's more important to hear the truth about what needs to be fixed than to be complimented constantly and think things are perfect when they aren't.

That being said, I'd like to take a moment to boost the moral of our excellent development team at Paizo, for working so hard on this new content and putting so many ideas on the table. I'd like to take this moment to show that even when there is work to be done making Pathfinder second edition the best product it can be, that I appreciate how far they have gone and how many hours they have worked to bring it to this point.

Nothing is ever first drafted as perfect, and nothing will ever make every person happy (except chocolate, and you can't change my mind), but I know a lot of frustration and a lot of work and a lot of hand cramps went into this product, and I'd like to clarify that even when I'm criticizing it in part or in whole, it's only because I know I need to do my part in making sure that everything is brought together across the finish line in the best shape it can be.

Thank you everyone for your hard work, and I hope you can keep a strong, upbeat +3 moral bonus while you round this next corner of a massive product design!

[Hythlodeus]

I don't really like chocolate

[gustavo iglesias]

I don't think 80% of the feedback is disheartening. There are some vocal unhappy players, sure, and some vocal happy players too. Then there is a big chunk of players who are just in the middle, more cautious, or that like some things and don't like some others.

But take a look at this thread for example:

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2vafs?If-Paizo-was-to-start-PF2e-over

Even a thread which starts with the premise that PF2 should start over, there is a lot of positive feedback on it. From action economy, to heightened spells, to item rarity, to class feats, to gear traits, a lot of people gave positive reactions to a lot of things. Even among people who are not 100% behind the new edition, there is praise.

[Shiroi]

gustavo iglesias wrote:

I don't think 80% of the feedback is disheartening. There are some vocal unhappy players, sure, and some vocal happy players too. Then there is a big chunk of players who are just in the middle, more cautious, or that like some things and don't like some others.

But take a look at this thread for example:

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2vafs?If-Paizo-was-to-start-PF2e-over

Even a thread which starts with the premise that PF2 should start over, there is a lot of positive feedback on it. From action economy, to heightened spells, to item rarity, to class feats, to gear traits, a lot of people gave positive reactions to a lot of things. Even among people who are not 100% behind the new edition, there is praise.

That's a good thing to see, I suppose I'm mostly seeing the unpleasant jump out at me, the tone of the boards in general seems contentious to me. I'm glad it's not necessarily perceived as such for others.

[Malckuss76]

Even if I found a rule I didn't care for, I still as a hobbyist game designer appreciate the vast amount of labor and care that went into these rules. Kudos. Thank you for the work you have given us, the work you will do, and the awesome end result you will create from our (sometimes too salty) feedback. Please try to remember, the people who are most upset are upset because they are invested in the work you previously did. If they didn't care, they wouldn't be upset. Your efforts are much appreciated.