Mythic: Perfect Preparation


Rules Questions


Perfect Preparation (Ex)
"You have discovered the secret to preparing spells without having to refer to outside sources. You no longer need to prepare spells from a spellbook (if you’re a magus or wizard) or a familiar (if you’re a witch). You still must spend the normal amount of time preparing spells. You may keep or discard your spellbook or familiar."

Does this mean you can prepare any spell from your classes spell list, so long as it is of a level you can cast? If you can just do away with your spellbook there's no keeping track of what spells you know, so I can only assume you basically become an arcane Cleric in terms of spells.


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I think it just means that your ability to prepare the spells you have learned cannot be taken away from you by denying you your books or familiar.


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Perfect Preparation does not affect your spells known in any way shape or form. What it does is allow you to prepare any spell you know without needed anything else. Basically you store your spells in your head instead of book or a familiar.


Mysterious Stranger wrote:
Perfect Preparation does not affect your spells known in any way shape or form. What it does is allow you to prepare any spell you know without needed anything else. Basically you store your spells in your head instead of book or a familiar.

So then it raises the question for me, how do you learn a spell from a scroll if you do away with your spellbook or familiar? Negate write/copy cost, you just learn it straight from the scroll?


Isaac Zephyr wrote:
Mysterious Stranger wrote:
Perfect Preparation does not affect your spells known in any way shape or form. What it does is allow you to prepare any spell you know without needed anything else. Basically you store your spells in your head instead of book or a familiar.
So then it raises the question for me, how do you learn a spell from a scroll if you do away with your spellbook or familiar? Negate write/copy cost, you just learn it straight from the scroll?

It is equivocal, a GM call, since neither take is supported or refuted. Your GM might rule that writing it down is part of a wizard's learning process, as would the familiar be to the witch.

Hmm, half of what i wrote vanished. The gist of what I wrote was that since there was no advantage to learning was noted, none exists. The wizard still needs to write it down somewhere, the witch still has to have the familiar or perhaps someone else as an intermediary.


I generally rule that a Wizard (or other class) knows any spells that meets the following: The character knows the spell through traditional means (written in their spell book or known by familiar), successfully prepared a spell from another caster's spell book, or prepared from a scroll (erases the scroll).


With perfect preparation you memorize your spells instead of recording it. You still lean the spell the same way you did before you acquired perfect preparation except you no longer require the spell book or familiar. One thing to keep in mind is that while you no longer need a spell book or familiar you can still use them if you wish.

As to the cost of learning a spell there is none. The only cost involved in spell books is copying it to your own spell book. A wizard can actually use someone else’s spell book to prepare spells at no cost. The reason you need to make a spellcraft roll to use another wizard’s spell book is that each wizard has their own way of recording spells.

A wizard only has to decipher a spell once after that he knows it. A wizard without perfect preparation has to record it in his spell book or he cannot prepare it. Since a wizard with perfect preparation does not require a spell book to prepare spells he can simply skip that step and prepare it from memory.


from the CRB on learning spells.

The process leaves a spellbook that was c opied from unharmed, but a spell successfully copied from a magic scroll disappears from the parchment. If the check fails, the wizard cannot understand or copy the spell. He cannot attempt to learn or copy that spell again until one week has passed. If the spell was from a scroll, a failed Spellcraft check does not cause the spell to vanish. In most cases, wizards charge a fee for the privilege of copying spells from their spellbooks. This fee is usually equal to half the cost to write the spell into a spellbook (see Writing a New Spell into a Spellbook). Rare and unique spells might cost significantly more. Independent Research: A wizard can also research a spell independently, duplicating an existing spell or c reating an entirely new one. The cost to research a new spell, and the time required, are left up to GM discretion, but it should probably take at least 1 week and cost at least 1,000 gp per level of the spell to be researched. This should also require a number of Spellcraft and Knowledge (arcana) checks.

Writing a New Spell into a Spellbook Once a wizard understands a new spell, he can record it into his spellbook.......

Learning it still costs as normal, you just get to skip the time and costs of that final step of writing into your spellbook.

Since we are on a computer forum may I mention that your spellbook or familiar is your offline backup for your knowledge if someone succeeds in stealing, erasing or corrupting your online knowledge. We all backup our data scrupulously, right?


Nowhere in the section on learning spells does it mention any cost to learn the spell. The only thing it mentions is that most wizards will charge someone to allow you to copy their spells. This assumes that that you require the other wizard’s cooperation. If you have possession of the other wizard spell book you don’t need to pay him For example if you kill another wizard and take his spellbook there is not cost except what it cost to copy into your book. Even that is not strictly necessary. You could just use his books and make the spellcraft roll each time you prepare the spells from that


If you kill another wizard, his spell books are treasure, and probably difficult to find, and may well be trapped. In any case the requirement to kill a wizard with a spell list worth killing for is hardly nothing. Or you could pay for the privilege.

If you go the found or purchased scroll route, there is the value of the scroll, which is used up.

Or you could research for yourself, which also costs.

This prior post is cut and pasted from the CRB, and is done before you can write a spell into your spellbook.

There is still the unfortunate fact that you are presuming that the feat has a real but unwritten follow on effect that writing down the spell that first time isn't part of the learning process. I even can see the logic, but having a logical base does not make it RAW or RAI.

Honestly though, I have spent more energy on this than it is worth to me. Best of luck to you.


It’s a mythic ability, so giving you free spell copying is hardly out of line. I’d say that you add spells in mostly the same way, just without a book or monetary cost, except for the cost for the access to the spell you are copying. Otherwise it wouldn’t so casually recommend doing away with your current spellbook.

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