Black is Not the New Black


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Starfinder Charter Superscriber

As far as I can tell, the only Pathfinder/Starfinder apparel being made these days is black t-shirts. I like them. I know Off-Worlds Design has the license. But is there any possibility of more creative shirts--such as in different colours, or mid-arm sleeve length, or true hoodies, etc.? Or maybe, and this may be asylum-crazy, socks with goblins on them or a knit-cap with an understated purple golem?


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Non-black t-shirts do not sell in numbers that justify producing them for Paizo. Vic Wertz has stated that on numerous occasions.


Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Yes, I've heard this too. But it still doesn't address whether any apparel other than t-shirts could sell, or whether the economics of manufacturing may have changed in the several years since the last time non-black shirts were attempted.

Paizo Employee Licensing Manager

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We have discussed all kinds of crazy ideas with a variety of potential partners - and continue to do so - but we haven't found a product that warrants production. And as Zaister said, non-black t-shirts don't sell well enough to justify making them available. The same goes for non-basic t-shirt apparel such as long sleeve and/or hoodies.


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Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Thanks, Glenn. Have you looked into the print-on-demand model? I can literally order a t-shirt or hoodie in any colour with any (non-copyrighted) design online, and somehow they make money and I get what I want. Even a license to print a small selection of Pathfinder material on-demand would be great.

Gorbacz: You make this same "I know better than you how to run your business" argument every time anyone requests something new or tries to engage with Paizo. It's not conducive to conversation. I'm not being an arrogant jerk, I'm just a fan who'd like to see some more swag.

Silver Crusade

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Jhaeman wrote:

Thanks, Glenn. Have you looked into the print-on-demand model? I can literally order a t-shirt or hoodie in any colour with any (non-copyrighted) design online, and somehow they make money and I get what I want. Even a license to print a small selection of Pathfinder material on-demand would be great.

Gorbacz: You make this same "I know better than you how to run your business" argument every time anyone requests something new or tries to engage with Paizo. It's not conducive to conversation. I'm not being an arrogant jerk, I'm just a fan who'd like to see some more swag.

And I'd like to see Paizo do things other than explaining why X is not being made. Whether it's fiction, inflatable globes, PF settings other than Golarion, boxed sets, tie-in full length movies with Viggo Mortensen as Valeros, erotica, pink hoodies or 5e supplements, Paizo is a competent business and people there are keeping tabs on what's feasible and what isn't. Also, "possible" =/= "acceptable". Print on demand is sure a thing, but Paizo doesn't do it out of concern for quality. You might say "well I would do PoD/pink t-shirts, I ain't got concerns Paizo has with possible quality issues" but Paizo might not be of the same opinion. And it's ultimately their call.


*sigh*

Boxed sets would be cool.


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Steve:

1) Buy bundle.

2) Put in box.

3) Win! ;)

Joking aside, if they threw in the appropriate Q-Workshop dice set, those would just about be a standard boxed set, minus the pretty box. Could I interest you in a bagged set?

Silver Crusade

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Hey, bags are my territory.


Joana wrote:

Steve:

1) Buy bundle.

2) Put in box.

3) Win! ;)

Joking aside, if they threw in the appropriate Q-Workshop dice set, those would just about be a standard boxed set, minus the pretty box. Could I interest you in a bagged set?

I have those. :)

There was just something cool about opening up those old TSR Boxed Sets and digging through to see how many books there were, what the maps showed, any sundry handouts/reference sheets...

Granted with the internet, unboxing videos and modern customer preferences for knowing what they're getting it probably wouldn't be the same any more. But who says nostalgia needs to be rational?

Silver Crusade

I have plenty of space in my wardrobe for more hoodies, it that need is not met I will likely eventually kill a PFS shirt and stitch the entrails to a hoodie.

Paizo Employee Licensing Manager

Jhaeman, yes we have. There are other considerations for us beyond just "can they provide pink 3/4 sleeve hoodies" and we haven't found one yet that everyone here can rally around.

Lantern Lodge Customer Service & Community Manager

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I've removed some unhelpful posts.


Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Glenn Elliott wrote:
Jhaeman, yes we have. There are other considerations for us beyond just "can they provide pink 3/4 sleeve hoodies" and we haven't found one yet that everyone here can rally around.

Ok, fair enough—thanks for the response.

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