Mute oracle curse?


Homebrew and House Rules


Has anyone made one? I'm actually really surprised they don't have it as one of the default ones. If so, what beneficial effect might it have? Casting silence would be a no-brainer but not sure what else.


Tongues is already a curse which is more or less similar to the idea of mute.

The problem with mute: you cannot do verbal spell components. No verbal components means basically no spells, which would destroy the Oracle as a class option.

They can't get Silent Spell free since as a Spontaneous caster not only would it take higher level slots, but all spells would become full round actions.

Now as an accessible type person, I would allow sign language as language for verbal, but arguably then it would be a somatic component. So they'd really never have enough hands. Since this isn't PF2, where you can have multiple somatic components in a spell, the framework doesn't exist. And level 1 free silent spell is a bit strong for a drawback.

Basically, they would need Silent Spell or have no spells. If you make that the reward of the curse eventually, then they're useless until then. If you give it to them immediately it's really powerful and makes the curse no longer a drawback.


why not just have them also get the deaf curses ability of "You cast all of your spells as if they were modified by the Silent Spell feat. This does not increase their level or casting time"(this ability is gained at 1st level). You would need to get more of a downside than just not being able to talk though.


There already is a Mute Oracle curse, but it's not complete and it's in an AP on an NPC Oracle.


hmm an oracle who doesn't talk..
i seem to real 2 'Prophets' - one doesn't talk the other won't shut-up. seem like cursed ether way..('Dogma' anyone?)


Isaac Zephyr wrote:

Tongues is already a curse which is more or less similar to the idea of mute.

The problem with mute: you cannot do verbal spell components. No verbal components means basically no spells, which would destroy the Oracle as a class option.

They can't get Silent Spell free since as a Spontaneous caster not only would it take higher level slots, but all spells would become full round actions.

Now as an accessible type person, I would allow sign language as language for verbal, but arguably then it would be a somatic component. So they'd really never have enough hands. Since this isn't PF2, where you can have multiple somatic components in a spell, the framework doesn't exist. And level 1 free silent spell is a bit strong for a drawback.

Basically, they would need Silent Spell or have no spells. If you make that the reward of the curse eventually, then they're useless until then. If you give it to them immediately it's really powerful and makes the curse no longer a drawback.

Deaf oracles already get silent spell for free, without modifying casting time or spell level.


Volkard Abendroth wrote:
Deaf oracles already get silent spell for free, without modifying casting time or spell level.

Yes I know, but deafness also bears additional penalties. A penalty on Perception checks, and Initiative being the really big ones. Mute lacks additional downside to "pay" for free Silent Spell. Especially since you have access to sign language and other negate the downside options like telepathy.

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