I can't wait for the PF2 Oracle.


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The Oracle was probably my favorite class, and I was looking at the Winter Mystery recently and it occurred to me how many improvements I expect the PF2 Oracle to have.

*Replacing X times per day revelations with a shared focus point pool feels way better to me, especially for a caster that is supposed to be spontaneous. I could see Oracles becoming the master of focus spells, given how many revelations they got in PF1.

*Spontaneous Heightening on Heal and Harm seems pretty dope, especially if Harm damage gets buffed like I'm expecting. Very nice for allowing darker themed Oracles to still provide healing.

*Spontaneous Heightening plus easier retraining means I can specialize in summoning without it completely taking over my spells known.

*I get the same spell level progression as the cleric, which will help me feel less like I'm playing a bargain bin cleric in order to get that sweet sweet flavor.

*Revelations to fit with class feats very well.

*Curses offer an interesting alternative to anathema.

*Demoralize makes being charisma based so much better.

There's also lots of stuff I'm just curious to see, like whether we still get a Battle mystery when multiclassing Fighter or Champion can get you the weapon and armor proficiency so easily. Or if they will get Bard or Sorcerer spell slots. I'm also hoping the divine spell list gets improved to make their base line casting more exciting.

Oracles rock my socks and I think they have the potential to rock even harder in PF2.


Oracle was my favorite PF1 class.

For some reason, I get the idea it might be an archetype in PF2, and I don't know if I like that idea or not.

A curse as an archetype dedication feat leading to revelation class feats that all must be from the same mystery.

Maybe only someone with access to the divine spell list can take it, maybe anyone can take this archetype.


I would be curious about the breakdown of the answers to the "regarding the Cavalier archetype, do you think old classes should be archetypes or their own unique classes" questions on the survey were like. Since while I have very little interest in the Cavalier, the Oracle is one I absolutely 100% want to be a class and not an archetype.

If nothing else, the Oracle is useful to represent divine casters (who do not have special blood) from societies that worship their ancestors, or spirits, or something other than "one of these gods." Like this sort of thing is perhaps more common outside the Inner Sea, but even like the people from the Land of the Linnorm Kings have divine casters and ancestor rather than deity worship.

But like every class is going to have an archetype for multiclassing, so people who want to be like "barbarians with a curse" can just multiclass. I mean, we already have two (1.25?) spontaneous casters for the occult list in the Bard and the Abberant Sorcerer, so we can do two (1.25?) for the other 3 lists as well.


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I would rather have some Oracle mechanics rolled into Sorcerer, to be honest, making Sorcerer feel much more distinguished and unique right out of the CRB.

*casts flame shield*


I'd rather the sorcerer not exist than lose the oracle, honestly.

But again, the sorcerer and the bard are both spontaneous occult casters. Why can't we double up on the other lists. I want a spontaneous primal caster to go with the oracle and bard too! Perhaps we can make the arcanist into the spontaneous arcane caster.

I'd also like a prepared occult caster and a "pick your magical tradition" prepared caster.

So for maximum synergy we get:
1 prepared and 1 spontaneous caster dedicated to each of the four traditions.
1 spontaneous caster which can pick a magical tradition.
1 prepared caster which can pick a magical tradition.

I think that is all the casters you will need until you start creating half casters or flesh out the other two traditions implied by the other two essence combinations.


As long as classes have clear and distinguished identities and their own specialties and strengths, I’m in.

So say,
Wizard, Druid, Cleric, Witch as prepared casters
Psychic, Shaman, Oracle and Bard as spontaneous casters
Sorcerer and Arcanist as the versatile casters

Something like this?


I meant "symmetry" when I wrote "synergy" but the edit window has passed, alas.

But, yeah something like that works. In PF1 the Shaman was not a spontaneous caster, but it works for a spontaneous primal caster as far as I'm concerned. We also have strong suspicion that the Occultist will be back, which could conceivably go "full caster" like the bard, and might make the opposite switch to be the prepared occult caster. I mean, in PF1 playing an occultist is a lot of planning how to invest your mental focus so it's not too much of a thematic switch- in order to prepare, say, haste the occultist would have to invest power into their transmutation implement.

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