Paradox Surge and Extra Discovery


Rules Questions


I'm a 16th level alchemist, and have just added Paragon Surge to my extract list. It gives a bonus to INT and DEX, but it also, most importantly, lets you take any one feat, for which you are qualified, for the duration of the extract.

Paragon Surge:
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For the duration of the spell, you receive a +2 enhancement bonus to Dexterity and Intelligence and are treated as if you possessed any one feat for which you meet the prerequisites, chosen when you cast this spell.

The first time each day that you cast this spell, you must select a feat and make all the associated choices that come with it. Once that choice is made, it is set for the day and additional castings must make the exact same decisions.
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/p/paragon-surge/

At level 16, I now also qualify for the Elixir of Life discovery.

Elixir of Life:
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Once per day, the alchemist can brew an elixir of life. This special concoction costs 25,000 gp to create and takes 1 hour of work. An elixir of life, when administered by the alchemist who brewed it, restores life to a dead creature as per the spell true resurrection. Alternatively, the alchemist himself may drink the elixir of life, after which point he is immediately targeted with a resurrection spell the next time he is killed. Used in this manner, the effects of an elixir of life persist only for a number of days equal to the alchemist’s Intelligence modifier; if he does not die before that time expires, the effects of the elixir of life end.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/alchemist/discoveries/paizo-a lchemist-discoveries/elixir-of-life/

Is there any reason that I couldn't take this extract with the chain:
[Paragon Surge > Feat: Extra Discovery > Elixir of Life],
and then proceed to brew an elixir of life, taking another PS extract each time the previous one is about to expire, thus keeping the discovery until the hour of brewing is done?


Seems fine to me.

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Personally, I would say this would only work if you could complete the crafting within the duration of a single spell/extract: Stopping the brewing process three times to drink a new extract just seems wrong...

A few things to note about Paragon Surge:

  • The stat bonuses are Enhancement Bonuses and therefore do not stack with any other enhancement bonus (like from a headband or belt, which you probably should have by level 16).
  • This spell / extract is exclusive to Half-Elfs only.


I would agree with Taja that as long as you can complete crafting within the duration of Paragon Surge it works. That minute per level duration may encourage the use of metamagic or arcanist spell tinkering to make it work.

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