Mechanic Exocortex Armor Slot can use Heavy & Powered Upgrades?


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Reading through the rules for Armor Upgrades, I noticed that an Android gains an armor upgrade slot, but is limited to "light" armor upgrades... this makes sense.

However, a Mechanic with an exocortex appears to get armor upgrade slots that anything can go in? An exocortex is not a "heavy" or "powered" device.

In the exocortex description: "an artificial processor that interacts with and augments your biological brain’s cognitive functions, which can aid you in a variety of tasks, from combat to digital infiltration."

My assumption is the oversight will eventually be errata'd.

Thoughts?


Technically, exocortex mechanics can gain the drone basic mod "armor slot". Which does give them an unconditional armor slot.
But it most importantly means you can't limit exocortex users without affecting drones. I don't see combat drones getting that iind of limitation.

Further, I'm not sure it's such a big deal. Different things, different sources, differents effects ... Why not ?
There's not a lot of heavy only upgrades so far, exocortex mechs are heavy proficient anyway, one more slot shouldn't break everything.


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Is it unconditional? I only used mods that fit in "Any" armor for the drone because a drone/exocortex isn't light, heavy, or powered armor. A drone/exocortex isn't armor and no restrictions like the android's are listed so I'm pretty sure I agree you by the end of the sentence.

Only using "Any" mods wasn't a big deal, but it did limit a few options seemingly needlessly. There's no reason a mod for powered armor couldn't be in a "powered" drone.


I agree that the rules seem to compel "any" mods for drones and mechanics.


I agree that placing any (light, heavy, powered) armor upgrade in a drone is legit.

But an exocortex is not the same; now I also don't think that its overly unbalanced, but the possibility of using two Armor Slots and the walking around with your own Titan Shield, Fortified Plates, or Magic Resistors seems outside the intent of the exocotex; however, I could be wrong


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Your image of an exocortex mechanic may not be the same.

Someone else's image of an exocortex mechanic going all in on self augmentation may be very different from yours.

The rules of the ability are exactly the same as drone mods.


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You know Felix (and Xenocrat), I hadn't even thought about it, but I think you're absolutely right on the idea that only the "any" upgrades can be plugged in, rather than well, any and all upgrades.
Kind of ashamed I missed that, really. Mea culpa.

You do not count as any specific type of armor, so it would make sense that only the most generic ones can be used.

Kinda sad, mostly for the drone users : speaking of Titan Shields, I wouldn't have minded one on a combat drone. Sounds fun.
Exocortex mechanics can wear heavy armor anyway, should they so choose, so it's less of an issue for them.

Still, again, exocortex mechanics do not get random armor slots, they gain drone mods, one of which is the armor slot mod.
They just mechanically cannot behave differently for exos and drones : what works for one has to work for the other, and vice versa, as it is very much the same thing.

It's not that crazy either : to compare, how many supplemental augmentations can you fit in a body if you build for it like a madman ? Four ? Is a couple armor slots worse ?
Armor slots are more versatile than the other mods, clearly the most versatile of the options available, but they're competing with other good stuff.
Plus you still have to buy the actual upgrades, whereas the other mods are free. That's something as well.


Nyerkh wrote:

You do not count as any specific type of armor, so it would make sense that only the most generic ones can be used.

Well, if you don't count as any specific type of armor, then logically, you can't use armor mods that can be used by the any armor type. :)

More seriously, limiting it to the any type of armor is the most conservative, and least likely to cause problems.

Although I admit clarification from the developers would be nice, as the intent is hard to determine. I can see arguments made either way. "Your drone gains an armor upgrade slot for an armor upgrade (see page 204)."

It just says armor upgrade, even though normally you can't install armor upgrades into non-armor. So clearly, its breaking the rule that armor upgrades can only be installed in armor at some level. Does that mean it also breaks the armor type rule given it doesn't make sense to apply it? Was "any" in the table intended as short hand for light, heavy or powered, or is it intended explicitly to cover these other armor slots given to non-armor? I have no clue what the developer intent was there.

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If the upgrade says...

"only light" => the exocortex slot isn't light, so it can't be slotted

"not in light" => the exocortex slot isn't light, so it can be slotted

And likewise for mods that single out heavy or powered slots.

"only in light and heavy armor" => can't be slotted because it's neither of those

"not in powered armor" => can be slotted, because it's not powered armor


lets just get the faq count up on this one


I, too, would like to know if RAI was to support exocortex mechanics summoning their own Titan shields (an idea that I found pleasing). FAQ'd !

Dataphiles

Agreed a FAQ would be nice.

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