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It says they have dr 10/glass or obsidian and can only be killed with a weapon made of glass or obsidian. Would just a shard of broken glass from a window count for this purpose? Unless the PCs know ahead of time they will be fighting fexts it's pretty unlikely they will have such a weapon on them.


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I would say using a shard of glass would work, but would function like an improvised weapon and thus take a –4 penalty on attack rolls made with it.

I personally know how dangerous broken glass can be, so as a GM I would say that the PCs using glass shards as weapons would have to be careful with how they use them or be in danger of hurting themselves.

That's my two cents.


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Unless the PCs know ahead of time they will be fighting fexts it's unlikely they'll know that glass is necessary to kill one. Still, if you can set it up then smashing a window to get a glass shard to deliver the final blow is a great scene.


avr wrote:
Unless the PCs know ahead of time they will be fighting fexts it's unlikely they'll know that glass is necessary to kill one.

I would guess a successful knowledge (religion) check would reveal that fact even if they never actually encountered a fext before.


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How much data you get on a successful k (religion) check is not well defined - 1 piece of information plus 1 per 5 you beat the check DC by, but 'piece of information' is not well defined. It's not the entire stat block, that's as much as is in the rules. I use it as the players getting to ask a question about the monster for each piece (What energy resistances or immunities does it have? What special attacks? etc.)

Unless you insist on it, they're unlikely to get the unkillable quality and its contents from the first piece of info.


I would imagine something that important would be one of the first pieces of info you get, like with trolls and using fire or acid.


KingGramJohnson wrote:

I would say using a shard of glass would work, but would function like an improvised weapon and thus take a –4 penalty on attack rolls made with it.

I personally know how dangerous broken glass can be, so as a GM I would say that the PCs using glass shards as weapons would have to be careful with how they use them or be in danger of hurting themselves.

That's my two cents.

How about if they roll a 1 with the shard they cut themselves and get bleed 1?


Presumably the party will want to investigate "how do we kill one of these for good" after the first time one of them gets back up after being "killed" and they have to fight it again.

Of course, if your players insist on "stealing all of its gear during the 1d4 minutes before its regeneration kicks in" it's a lot less scary so the party has the opportunity to try things.


A shard of broken glass could easily kill a creature depending on the size of the shard and the state of the creature. Don't need much more than a Razor Blade's length to cut something's throat if its unconscious.

Also, shards of glass are much much easier to use when you have metal gauntlets. Its pretty hard to cut yourself when you've got iron between you and the glass.


Technically glass won't do the job if it's unconscious. You need to reduce it to zero with the final hit, or cut off the head (with DR 10/glass or obsidian involved) & use holy water instead. Or wait and stab with glass when it wakes up.


Yqatuba wrote:
It says they have dr 10/glass or obsidian and can only be killed with a weapon made of glass or obsidian. Would just a shard of broken glass from a window count for this purpose? Unless the PCs know ahead of time they will be fighting fexts it's pretty unlikely they will have such a weapon on them.

well, that is part of the challenge of a fext, and the place of the encounter in the campaign should be built around that.

They are undead that come from from legends built around military commanders that seem to have too much of a knack for serving- which means they are well suited to daring deeds that get them promoted to a high rank. Their historical and in game lore put them into a position where they could easily serve as the BBEG, or as the high level secret agent to some other power. This could very well be the young, daring general that seeks to gain the king's ear, or the brutal tyrant that is conquering the nation.

A large portion of a campaign could be devoted solely around the players realizing that something is 'off' about this fext, and then researching ways to deal with the problem.


avr wrote:
Technically glass won't do the job if it's unconscious. You need to reduce it to zero with the final hit, or cut off the head (with DR 10/glass or obsidian involved) & use holy water instead. Or wait and stab with glass when it wakes up.

If its unconscious I imagine you could saw it's head off with a big shard of glass and some effort.


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Yqatuba wrote:
KingGramJohnson wrote:

I would say using a shard of glass would work, but would function like an improvised weapon and thus take a –4 penalty on attack rolls made with it.

I personally know how dangerous broken glass can be, so as a GM I would say that the PCs using glass shards as weapons would have to be careful with how they use them or be in danger of hurting themselves.

That's my two cents.

How about if they roll a 1 with the shard they cut themselves and get bleed 1?

Honestly, that sounds reasonable to me.

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