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Sorry Cal, for ranting up the place. I’ll drop it and move on.


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quibblemuch wrote:
Sorry Cal, for ranting up the place. I’ll drop it and move on.

No worries whatsoever! Sometimes a rant is necessary, especially when the outcome is good. I rant multiple times a day at one thing or another. My son and his roommate (who have been staying here since July with no sign of moving out) causes me at least 3 rants a week...lol


Dear god. Have you tried turning the hose on them? :)


Not yet. My son really wants to move out, but he doesn't make enough money to do it on his own and really has almost none to put aside for savings. His roommate makes more money and will spend it all within a week and have nothing to show for it. Both my son and I are getting fed up with his village idiocy but the guy has ZERO friends outside of my son because he's such an unpleasant person to be around so he'd have nowhere to go and my son feels somehow responsible for him and just can't bring himself to kick him out. I don't mind my son living here because he's gone on the weekends with his band so I get some alone time, but the other guy...(sound of a pump shotgun being armed).


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I’m just going to pretend that was a Supersoaker...

*casually backs away whistling*


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Any gun's a Supersoaker if blood counts.


Teh winnah!


Well, let's talk a little about gaming. I picked up the D&D 5th edition so, I have been getting a feeling for the game again it is different than the original manuals. How are they different from Pathfinder? Do you really think one is better than the other?


Dizzydoo42 wrote:
Well, let's talk a little about gaming. I picked up the D&D 5th edition so, I have been getting a feeling for the game again it is different than the original manuals. How are they different from Pathfinder? Do you really think one is better than the other?

I’m interested in opinions from people who’ve played both, because I notice a lot of the games round here are 5e. I love PF and think it’s a fantastic system, but am intrigued by people’s experience w/5e.


D&D 5e is mechanically very similar to PF1e. It's a lot more simplified and streamlined, which makes it easier for newbies to pick up, but leaves a lot less customization options.

I consider it Diet PF, personally. They're almost the same game.


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Having not looked at the 5th Edition rules I can't help ya out. But there are several here who have. But be careful; if an edition war starts I'll ask the mods remove those posts.

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I mean there's enough differences, but they're still your same western european high fantasy run on the d20 model mechanics. When you compare it to a system that's totally different from the ground up, though, like Fate, Savage Worlds, or World of Darkness, Pathfinder and D&D are essentially the same thing.


Limeylongears wrote:
Hello, John! How's things?

Doing well.


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Been watching some PBS Spacetime videos on Youtube, mainly about Black Holes. Fascinating stuff.


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John Napier 698 wrote:
Been watching some PBS Spacetime videos on Youtube, mainly about Black Holes. Fascinating stuff.

I LOVE that series. I always come away thinking: “Dang! I’m dumb, but there are some really smart people out there! And the universe is wicked cool...”


I didn't mean to cause a sensation or get any one's ire up.


Dizzydoo42 wrote:
I didn't mean to cause a sensation or get any one's ire up.

I didn't see any rilin' up.


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John, I going to check it out. I agree with qubblemuch, "the universe is wicked cool..."


DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Dizzydoo42 wrote:
I didn't mean to cause a sensation or get any one's ire up.
I didn't see any rilin' up.

Sara Marie Jumped in there and I thought maybe D&D is a foul subject around here.


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Astronomy always fascinated me. The universe is wicked cool, as you say Q. The Science of Discworld really got me interested in the subject even more, though. I never knew about space elevators before that, for example.

SoD is a series by Terry Pratchett where he combines a fictional story with his Discworld series with a non-fiction about our real universe...essentially the wizards create a universe in a ball (our universe) that has absolutely no magic, which is amazing to them, and they study it thoroughly, and a few events happen. I've read the first one, and have the third out from the library right now - sadly I have yet to find the second.


I haven't played 5E yet, but I'm going to be Manning an NPC in a coworkers' game Friday night.

I'm making a 4th level dwarven paladin with a forgotten dark history. For a new player I found the experience unfulfilling, but I fully admit the ease of making a character would be very enticing to many people. Just not so much for me.


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Dizzydoo42 wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Dizzydoo42 wrote:
I didn't mean to cause a sensation or get any one's ire up.
I didn't see any rilin' up.

Sara Marie Jumped in there and I thought maybe D&D is a foul subject around here.

Nah. A disagreement about ethics. Best to not worry about it. Tensions flared. I'd rather not have beef with anyone over something so trivial. I actually rather like the person who was mad about it.


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On another note, I got 4 full-time players (my girlfriend and 3 reddit recruits) and 2 part-time players (from my PF group) to join my upcoming L5R game! SO PSYCHED! Cal knows I've been frustrated by my PF group's lack of willingness to try anything new, so to have wrangled two of them into this is awesome. Maybe they'll convince the others to try some new systems when we finish playing through our GM's heavily modded Kingmaker.

I have a few modules I found online for inspiration for the Legend of the Five Rings game, and a few campaign ideas I've had bouncing around for a while, but if anyone has any ideas for hooks, arcs, and other stories that's familiar with the setting, I'm willing to hear!


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That is great, VE! I look forward to hearing about your group's exploits!


I'm not sure I will be able to make GASP because a) I might not have my car back on Saturday and b) Mom needs me to help get the Christmas tree down...

Also day one of doodle sitting went well. I just feel bad about leaving the puppy by herself because I have to get back to care for MY dogs. I mean I could stay longer than a half hour...but it might not work out for everyone...


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

I'm not sure I will be able to make GASP because a) I might not have my car back on Saturday and b) Mom needs me to help get the Christmas tree down...

Also day one of doodle sitting went well. I just feel bad about leaving the puppy by herself because I have to get back to care for MY dogs. I mean I could stay longer than a half hour...but it might not work out for everyone...

That's okay, Tom. GASP isn't going away. Any month is fine, just let me know what month will work, and I'll find what day it is.


The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

On another note, I got 4 full-time players (my girlfriend and 3 reddit recruits) and 2 part-time players (from my PF group) to join my upcoming L5R game! SO PSYCHED! Cal knows I've been frustrated by my PF group's lack of willingness to try anything new, so to have wrangled two of them into this is awesome. Maybe they'll convince the others to try some new systems when we finish playing through our GM's heavily modded Kingmaker.

I have a few modules I found online for inspiration for the Legend of the Five Rings game, and a few campaign ideas I've had bouncing around for a while, but if anyone has any ideas for hooks, arcs, and other stories that's familiar with the setting, I'm willing to hear!

I am heavily invested in the Monte Cook universe in time and money. My brother is a Midevil kind of rogue on a frozen/ cold desert world, it was the landfill planet so they were all scavengers. He more or less quit to go to the beach


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Listening to the final cut of my son's band's new CD. I'm a pretty proud dad right now.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

On another note, I got 4 full-time players (my girlfriend and 3 reddit recruits) and 2 part-time players (from my PF group) to join my upcoming L5R game! SO PSYCHED! Cal knows I've been frustrated by my PF group's lack of willingness to try anything new, so to have wrangled two of them into this is awesome. Maybe they'll convince the others to try some new systems when we finish playing through our GM's heavily modded Kingmaker.

I have a few modules I found online for inspiration for the Legend of the Five Rings game, and a few campaign ideas I've had bouncing around for a while, but if anyone has any ideas for hooks, arcs, and other stories that's familiar with the setting, I'm willing to hear!

I'm already proud of my girlfriend. This is going to be her first RPG in over a decade (she's also going to be playing in the Friday Pathfinder group I'm in - so it's technically second, but only by a day). She is going to be playing an Utaku Battle Maiden, the hardened female cavalry of the Unicorn clan.

She came up with a great backstory - a peasant in the Scorpion clan who was raped at a young age, and the father, and a samurai's word is the only thing that matters in Rokugani court, so when he said it was consensual, that's just the end of the matter. She had twins, a boy and a girl, and the father took the boy and kicked her to the street. She ran away to the Unicorn lands, a clan famous for treating its peasants with more respect than any other clan, and upon hearing her story was adopted into the Utaku family. She grew up learning to be a warrior, so she could enact her revenge on the father of her children, take back her son, and prevent anything like this from happening to her daughter in the future.


John,

Well it won't be this month, next month or even March I think. Because some time during the end of this month or beginning of February, Mom's going to need surgery to have a plate/pins in her collar bone that hasn't healed properly. So...yeah...


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Sorry to hear about your mom's upcoming surgery. Something like that will put anything and everything on hold.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

John,

Well it won't be this month, next month or even March I think. Because some time during the end of this month or beginning of February, Mom's going to need surgery to have a plate/pins in her collar bone that hasn't healed properly. So...yeah...

Oh no! I hope everything goes well and she has a quick recovery.


"From the book the word is spoken
Whispers from forgotten song
Gather all around the young ones
They will make us strong"

Good night, housemates!


What do people think about "Nightcore"? 'Tis new to me, and I'm unsure how I feel.


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DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Listening to the final cut of my son's band's new CD. I'm a pretty proud dad right now.

Is his band on Bandcamp/Soundcloud/Youtube, or similar?

Shadow Lodge

Asmodeus' Advocate wrote:
What do people think about "Nightcore"? 'Tis new to me, and I'm unsure how I feel.

From what I can tell, there's very little to the genre (currently, see below) other than plopping a song into a music editing program like Audacity or GarageBand, shortening it to raise the pitch and tempo, and adding a dance beat.

In that sense its hardly creative on its own, but it reminds me of Vaporwave, which was basically the same thing but opposite - stretching the song to make it lower in pitch and tempo, and instead of a dance beat adding old mechanical glitches like skips and tears.

So at the moment there doesn't seem to be much to the genre from what I've personally experienced, but people ended up doing interesting things with Vaporwave beyond and above the basic simple altering of the base song track, so I would have to say Nightcore at least has the potential to do likewise, even if it hasn't been achieved yet.

As for personal taste, not really my thing, not big into electronica dance style stuff.


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Someone put my head on straight. I'm debating trying to sit down and write some short plays for drama club so I don't have to faff about with royalties or the fact that I don't have enough interested boys to cast all the male parts properly.


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quibblemuch wrote:
Dizzydoo42 wrote:
Well, let's talk a little about gaming. I picked up the D&D 5th edition so, I have been getting a feeling for the game again it is different than the original manuals. How are they different from Pathfinder? Do you really think one is better than the other?
I’m interested in opinions from people who’ve played both, because I notice a lot of the games round here are 5e. I love PF and think it’s a fantastic system, but am intrigued by people’s experience w/5e.

My Pathfinder group attempted running the PF 2e Playtest with Doomsday Dawn. We could not keep up anywhere close to the breakneck pace the official playtest guidelines required. We found the rulebook VERY difficult to use, the math broken, and the adventure in general not fun at all. We gave up halfway through Part 3.

Unfortunately, that game really killed our enthusiasm for Pathfinder, so we switched gears and started a Dragon Heist campaign for D&D 5e.

Honestly... I am really digging 5e!

It's fast, streamlined, easy-to-learn, and still feels completely like D&D/Pathfinder. The biggest change for me was the setting: We're in the Forgotten Realms... and this is the first time in 30+ years of gaming that I've ever played in the Realms! (Back when I played D&D, we used either Greyhawk or homebrew worlds.)

5e is an OGL game, and at its core is the same base system as D&D 3.x/PF.

There are a whole lot fewer conditional modifiers. All those various "+/-X in this circumstance" have been replaced by the concept of "Advantage/Disadvantage." If you have Advantage, you roll 2 d20s and take the higher value. If you have Disadvantage, you roll 2 d20s and take the lower value. (Statistically, Advantage is the same as a +4 bonus and Disadvantage is a -4 penalty... but it's honestly more fun to roll two dice!) Advantate or Disadvantage does not stack with itself, and if you somehow have both that the same time, they cancel out.

There aren't nearly as many character options... which makes sense because there aren't nearly as many "splat books." Skills and feats are more abstract. The rules in general are much less cut-and-dry than they are in PF, and the GM is explicitly empowered by the rules to interpret things and be the final arbiter. In that sense, it has a bit more of an "old school" feel with a modern ruleset.

It may just be a reaction to the Playtest, but I'm finding that I like 5e better than I liked PFRPG!


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Limeylongears wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Listening to the final cut of my son's band's new CD. I'm a pretty proud dad right now.
Is his band on Bandcamp/Soundcloud/Youtube, or similar?

Right now they only have their first release available for online purchase or streaming listening. It's a little rough in places and it's from before when my son joined the band. They don't have any decent videos (a couple that were recorded with someone's cellphone and posted to Youtube) but that's it. They have a great one from when they opened for Bon Jovi last spring but they haven't put in on YT yet, for reasons my son cannot fathom. It kinda pisses him off to bring it up...lol.

At any rate, here's a link to their page. You can just click on the Music header and it will take you to the songs from the first album. The band is called DeFrance. Their sound, in my opinion, is a mix of Tom Petty, Thin Lizzy, The Band, and Grand Funk Railroad with a little bit of blues added in. They're a very classic rock sounding band, but though they do a few covers live there are none on their recordings.

Oh! My son plays bass in the band. He's the one in the left rear in the yellow coat and sunglasses. As soon as the new album, "Second Wind", is available I'll let people know about that one, too. 'Cause I'm all about that bassist.


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Thanks for the thoughtful and enthusiastic feedback on 5e, Haladir!


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5e is fun, but I miss a lot of the PF1E options, and I've always been a skill junkie, so I don't really like skill points going away. But the streamlining of combat is so nice.

Hoping my schedule clears up again enough to go to the FLGS biweekly games soon. I miss playing my fish gish.


quibblemuch wrote:
Dizzydoo42 wrote:
Well, let's talk a little about gaming. I picked up the D&D 5th edition so, I have been getting a feeling for the game again it is different than the original manuals. How are they different from Pathfinder? Do you really think one is better than the other?
I’m interested in opinions from people who’ve played both, because I notice a lot of the games round here are 5e. I love PF and think it’s a fantastic system, but am intrigued by people’s experience w/5e.

I have not played much of 5e but I liked what I saw. Characters are made much faster, and I didn't feel like the system was working agaisnt me when I tried to rogue.

It certainly have a lack of choices, but compared to pathfinder gazillion of useless things that's not that bad.


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I'm now trying to talk a kid out of getting a horse mask for their Midsummer Night's Dream prom.


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Scintillae wrote:
I'm now trying to talk a kid out of getting a horse mask for their Midsummer Night's Dream prom.

Ah, the folly (or filly) of youth.


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I hope they saddle down and rein it in.

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