What weapon is this android weilding in Inner Sea Races?


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It looks really cool, so I was wondering what it is.


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It's just some made up sword with goofy looking vaugely technological add ons that the artist put in there.


Reksew_Trebla wrote:
It looks really cool, so I was wondering what it is.

What do you think it's doing?

It has an engine of some sort and a wheel running along some teeth to make something move.
Perhaps the lower half of the blade works like a jackhammer, rapidly stabbing back and forth.

If there's something like a chainsaw in Pathfinder you could just call it an unusual version of that.

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Jeven wrote:
Reksew_Trebla wrote:
It looks really cool, so I was wondering what it is.

What do you think it's doing?

It has an engine of some sort and a wheel running along some teeth to make something move.
Perhaps the lower half of the blade works like a jackhammer, rapidly stabbing back and forth.

If there's something like a chainsaw in Pathfinder you could just call it an unusual version of that.

There is chainsaw in the Technology Guide, just sayin'.


Arutema wrote:
Jeven wrote:
Reksew_Trebla wrote:
It looks really cool, so I was wondering what it is.

What do you think it's doing?

It has an engine of some sort and a wheel running along some teeth to make something move.
Perhaps the lower half of the blade works like a jackhammer, rapidly stabbing back and forth.

If there's something like a chainsaw in Pathfinder you could just call it an unusual version of that.

There is chainsaw in the Technology Guide, just sayin'.

The chainsaw is two handed. She is weilding the weapon in question one handed.

Now maybe it is a small chainsaw with a unique design, but I don’t recall any instance of weilding an improperly sized weapon in the art before.


Looks like an overly literal "saw"-"tooth" saber.

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Reksew_Trebla wrote:
Arutema wrote:
Jeven wrote:
Reksew_Trebla wrote:
It looks really cool, so I was wondering what it is.

What do you think it's doing?

It has an engine of some sort and a wheel running along some teeth to make something move.
Perhaps the lower half of the blade works like a jackhammer, rapidly stabbing back and forth.

If there's something like a chainsaw in Pathfinder you could just call it an unusual version of that.

There is chainsaw in the Technology Guide, just sayin'.

The chainsaw is two handed. She is weilding the weapon in question one handed.

Now maybe it is a small chainsaw with a unique design, but I don’t recall any instance of weilding an improperly sized weapon in the art before.

Amiri, the iconic Barbarian, is usually depicted swinging her signature oversized sword.


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She is hold the weapon in one hand. The grip on the weapon is big enough for both hands.


SorrySleeping wrote:
She is hold the weapon in one hand. The grip on the weapon is big enough for both hands.

You do know that you can weild one-handed weapons with two hands, right? Which means one-handed weapons have grips big enough for both hands.


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It looks like someone cobbled together a cheap bastard sword from a scrap heap in Numeria. The handle has tech pieces in it, but that blade looks like its cheap, used, and about to crack.


Reksew_Trebla wrote:
SorrySleeping wrote:
She is hold the weapon in one hand. The grip on the weapon is big enough for both hands.
You do know that you can wield one-handed weapons with two hands, right? Which means one-handed weapons have grips big enough for both hands.

But look at the size of that thing. The blade is thicker than her thigh. And that's not even considering whatever's up with the hilt/first half of the sword. Just guestimating here, but I'm imagining a chuck of machinery about that size sitting on the desk in front of me, mostly made of solid metal, and I'm not sure I could even pick it up. I could probably slide it off the desk, and then totter around with it? I'm not exactly the poster child for upper body strength, but still.

No, that's most certainly not a one-handed weapon.


Asmodeus' Advocate wrote:
Reksew_Trebla wrote:
SorrySleeping wrote:
She is hold the weapon in one hand. The grip on the weapon is big enough for both hands.
You do know that you can wield one-handed weapons with two hands, right? Which means one-handed weapons have grips big enough for both hands.

But look at the size of that thing. The blade is thicker than her thigh. And that's not even considering whatever's up with the hilt/first half of the sword. Just guestimating here, but I'm imagining a chuck of machinery about that size sitting on the desk in front of me, mostly made of solid metal, and I'm not sure I could even pick it up. I could probably slide it off the desk, and then totter around with it? I'm not exactly the poster child for upper body strength, but still.

No, that's most certainly not a one-handed weapon.

The android is severly damaged, and can hold it one-handed without big muscles. It is clearly not a two-handed weapon. If it were, she wouldn’t be able to even lift it one-handed.


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Reksew_Trebla wrote:
Asmodeus' Advocate wrote:
Reksew_Trebla wrote:
SorrySleeping wrote:
She is hold the weapon in one hand. The grip on the weapon is big enough for both hands.
You do know that you can wield one-handed weapons with two hands, right? Which means one-handed weapons have grips big enough for both hands.

But look at the size of that thing. The blade is thicker than her thigh. And that's not even considering whatever's up with the hilt/first half of the sword. Just guestimating here, but I'm imagining a chuck of machinery about that size sitting on the desk in front of me, mostly made of solid metal, and I'm not sure I could even pick it up. I could probably slide it off the desk, and then totter around with it? I'm not exactly the poster child for upper body strength, but still.

No, that's most certainly not a one-handed weapon.

The android is severely damaged, and can hold it one-handed without big muscles. It is clearly not a two-handed weapon. If it were, she wouldn’t be able to even lift it one-handed.

The android is a ro-butt. Any muskles are purely aesthetic. (Like that armor. ◔_◔)

That, and . . . how does being a one or two handed weapon change the sword's weight? It weighs what it weighs.


Asmodeus' Advocate wrote:
Reksew_Trebla wrote:
Asmodeus' Advocate wrote:
Reksew_Trebla wrote:
SorrySleeping wrote:
She is hold the weapon in one hand. The grip on the weapon is big enough for both hands.
You do know that you can wield one-handed weapons with two hands, right? Which means one-handed weapons have grips big enough for both hands.

But look at the size of that thing. The blade is thicker than her thigh. And that's not even considering whatever's up with the hilt/first half of the sword. Just guestimating here, but I'm imagining a chuck of machinery about that size sitting on the desk in front of me, mostly made of solid metal, and I'm not sure I could even pick it up. I could probably slide it off the desk, and then totter around with it? I'm not exactly the poster child for upper body strength, but still.

No, that's most certainly not a one-handed weapon.

The android is severely damaged, and can hold it one-handed without big muscles. It is clearly not a two-handed weapon. If it were, she wouldn’t be able to even lift it one-handed.

The android is a ro-butt. Any muskles are purely aesthetic. (Like that armor. ◔_◔)

That, and . . . how does being a one or two handed weapon change the sword's weight? It weighs what it weighs.

Androids are not robots. Robot is a subtype they don’t possess. And the lore says, that aside from being made of different materials and the blue tattoos, they look just like humans.

And how do you not understand that two-handed weapons weigh more? They are two-handed because they are bigger.

This is an example of a two-handed weapon by the way.


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Reksew_Trebla wrote:
It is clearly not a two-handed weapon. If it were, she wouldn’t be able to even lift it one-handed.

If it's to heavy to be lifted in one hand, then it's definitely to heavy to be efficiently used, even two-handed.

A quarterstaff is a two-handed weapon. And it's not much more than an 8 feet long staff. I can pick that up with one hand.
Zweihänder - blades literally named "two-handers" - apparently weight between 4 and 9 pounds. I can carry - but not use - that in one hand.


Even two handed swords could be used one handed as stabbing weapons pretty effectivly. But Pathfinder isn’t a reality simulator.


Rajnish Umbra, Shadow Caller wrote:
Reksew_Trebla wrote:
It is clearly not a two-handed weapon. If it were, she wouldn’t be able to even lift it one-handed.

If it's to heavy to be lifted in one hand, then it's definitely to heavy to be efficiently used, even two-handed.

A quarterstaff is a two-handed weapon. And it's not much more than an 8 feet long staff. I can pick that up with one hand.
Zweihänder - blades literally named "two-handers" - apparently weight between 4 and 9 pounds. I can carry - but not use - that in one hand.

Melkiador wrote:
Even two handed swords could be used one handed as stabbing weapons pretty effectivly. But Pathfinder isn’t a reality simulator.

Are you two serious? The post you are quoting clearly talks about how the android is severely damaged, as in it would have Strength damage. That means if the weapon was two-handed, it would weigh too much to lift one-handed, especially coupled with the average muscle size.


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Drawings of weapons always make them bigger than they should be. If someone made a real sword like that nobody here would be able to use it.

Search Youtube for Buster Sword and you'll find several videos where people make a real one. Every one of them gets a huge guy to lift and basically drop it in the right direction. They aren't 'wielding' the weapon, they are just dropping it in the right direction.

I've done a lot of renaissance reenactment activities. Some of it involved actual combat with heavy armor and weapons (and lots of rules on how to strike). Swords are generally much thinner and spindly than they get depicted. A sword is a superior weapon to things like axes and maces because you get more reach for the same weight, plus they are easier to hit with the striking surface than other weapons that generally have a much smaller striking surface. Swords are also the most likely weapon to break. A sword makes a beautiful wobbling/ringing sound when it breaks. If you can still hear it that means the fragments are still flying.

Armor is generally heavier than you'd expect. Spending a long time in armor makes your spine hurt. Shields are a lot heavier than weapons generally. Viking style round shield is light, but also really easy to damage. And its really easy to get exhausted swinging around a heavy weapon, especially when you are wearing armor. All that weight catches up to you real fast.


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Where is the android "severely damaged"? And, as long as we're talking about Pathfinder mechnics, I'm sure you know that no amount of damage impacts the usage of the damaged character's ability, as long as theat character is not at 0 hp or less, right?

And regarding the OP's question, Xenocrat is most likely right. It's just a sword drawn to look cool and fit with the theme of the Androffan android depicted there.


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Zaister wrote:
Where is the android "severely damaged"?

Looks to me like the android’s missing much of it’s outer casing.


Reksew_Trebla wrote:
Are you two serious? The post you are quoting clearly talks about how the android is severely damaged, as in it would have Strength damage. That means if the weapon was two-handed, it would weigh too much to lift one-handed, especially coupled with the average muscle size.

- Damage does not automatically translate to strength damage. You can be at negative HP and only stand due to ferocity and still swing around two-handed weapons.

- Also, if you have enough base strength, it takes a lot of strength damage to lower your carry weight to relevant levels.

- And strength in pathfinder isn't really linked to muscle size. Artists take a lot of creative liberty with that. Looks are purely aesthetic.

- At last, there are very few weapons with a strength requirement. For all but a handful of weapons, the rule is that if you can carry it - even if it puts you in heavy load - you can swing it.


Arutema wrote:
Jeven wrote:
Reksew_Trebla wrote:
It looks really cool, so I was wondering what it is.

What do you think it's doing?

It has an engine of some sort and a wheel running along some teeth to make something move.
Perhaps the lower half of the blade works like a jackhammer, rapidly stabbing back and forth.

If there's something like a chainsaw in Pathfinder you could just call it an unusual version of that.

There is chainsaw in the Technology Guide, just sayin'.

The chainsaw in the Technology Guide has one design. The chainsaw wielded by Kulgara on the cover of Lords of Rust, which is also in the picture linked to by Reksew_Trebla, has a different design. Thus, we establish that the Numerian chainsaws look different. The android's blade could be a chainsaw of a third design.

The blade looks solid, so I would guess it serves more as a reciprocating saw than a chain saw. Nevertheless, I would use the stats of the technological chainsaw.

Asmodeus' Advocate wrote:
Zaister wrote wrote:
Where is the android "severely damaged"?
Looks to me like the android’s missing much of it’s outer casing.

The Technology Guide also has cybernetic limbs and dermal plating. The cable-textured skin on the android is probably one of those. The only injury appears to be on the palm of her left hand.

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