Soul Warden Spiritualist - Nosoi Familiar question


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Hi there,

the relatively new archetype "Soul Warden" for the spiritualist (not to be confused with the Prestige Class of the same name) provides the spiritualist with a Nosoi Psychopomp familiar.

I'm now confused about the bolded part in the Nosoi Scribe ability

Quote:
Nosoi Scribe: At 1st level, a soul warden gains a fledgling nosoi familiar. Treat this as a raven familiar until the soul warden reaches 4th level, at which point it is treated as a nosoi (as though the soul warden had taken the Improved Familiar feat). The familiar uses the soul warden’s spiritualist level as its Hit Dice for the purpose of determining the effects and duration of its haunting melody ability and all other effects related to its HD. At 10th level, the nosoi scribe gains the ability to use its touch the spirit world ability three times per day, instead of once per day. At 12th level, it also gains the Repose domain’s ward against death ability.

The problem I see with this is: The Nosoi doesn't have this ability.

"Touch the Spirit World" is an ability of the Souls Subdomain

Quote:
Touch the Spirit World (Su): With a touch, you can empower a weapon to affect incorporeal creatures. The weapon touched deals half damage to incorporeal creatures, or full damage if it is a magic weapon. This benefit lasts for a number of rounds equal to your cleric level. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.

The Nosoi does however have the "Spirit Touch" ability listed under its special qualites in the bestiary entry. Which is from the "Psychopomp(Repose) Subdomain", which by RAW, it can use 0 times per day, as a Nosoi has no cleric levels.

So how exactly is the bolded line in Nosoi Scribe supposed to work? I think it's clear that the familiar is supposed to have the ability 3 times per day at level 10, but does it actually have 1 use per day before that?


Hjard wrote:

The problem I see with this is: The Nosoi doesn't have this ability.

"Touch the Spirit World" is an ability of the Souls Subdomain

The Nosoi does however have the "Spirit Touch" ability listed under its special qualites in the bestiary entry. Which is from the "Psychopomp(Repose) Subdomain", which by RAW, it can use 0 times per day, as a Nosoi has no cleric levels.

So how exactly is the bolded line in Nosoi Scribe supposed to work? I think it's clear that the familiar is supposed to have the ability 3 times per day at level 10, but does it actually have 1 use per day before that?

So the "Spirit Touch" thing is completely different from the called out ability.

Psychopomp Subtype:
Spirit Touch (Ex)

A psychopomp’s natural weapons, as well as any weapon it wields, are treated as though they had the ghost touch weapon special ability.
Spiritsense (Su)
A psychopomp notices, locates, and can distinguish between living and undead creatures within 60 feet, just as if it had the blindsight ability.

It comes from the Psychopomp subtype. Unfortunately I think this was an oversight in writing... As RAW it's useless, if only for the reason that there's no assumption for Cleric level in this case.

Also it doesn't have that ability (Touch of the Spirit World) at all, unless it was originally written for something else that it could have used once per day?


I just assumed it meant the Spirit Touch psychopomp ability. Editing errors happen, unfortunately. Common sense can save the day!
My character in Strange Aeons is a Soul Warden Spriritualist. Cannot wait to reach 4th level and get my whippoorwill to evolve into a Nosoi. Feel as though I am playing Pokemon...

Designer

It was originally an emissary familiar with the souls subdomain (and it got to stay an emissary with no speak with animals of its kind despite becoming an improved familiar); the emissary part was cut (likely either for copyfit or to limit the need for UW to play the archetype), so it probably needs to lose the now-extraneous ability as well.

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