Do outsiders have to go to the bathroom?


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It says they don't need to eat but still can if they want. So if they do eat are there any... byproducts?


Or do they just puke it back up?


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Only for comedic effect.


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Let’s check the internet.


they don't have to, but it's just a room. I guess if that's where the summoning agent performs the ritual, they'd have to.


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i mean, if you eat and dont poop, you eventually explode. so I'm guessing yes?


You eat, you got to the bathroom.


I noticed some outsiders (e.g barghests) get more powerful from eating people so maybe for them it is all "digested" into quintessence or whatever?


I would also think an azer or something could just burn the food entirely.

Maybe the smell gets... Unpleasant.


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Since they don’t need break down the food to digest I would assume they don’t have a humanoid digestive system. That being the case they would not have the same waste product that a humanoid does.

They could also have a very efficient digestive system that is able to break down and absorb everything that they eat. In that case there would be no waste product to dispose of.


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Maybe they just cough up the refuse like owl pellets.


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Darigaaz the Igniter wrote:
Maybe they just cough up the refuse like owl pellets.

Having a succubus cough up a pellet or hairball would really set the mood, perhaps one different than what they wanted. They should be mindful of their table manners. I should remember to make happen at least once with my players. ;)

Of course that might ruin the temptation aspect of succubi. Maybe I should make it clear later that the one succubi was cursed or something. Later so there can be a few opportunities to have confused succubi wondering why their charm isn't working on the adventurers. ;)


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I just wanted to come by and show my support for this thread.

Carry on.


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No, they choose to just as they choose to eat. Being an Outsider has a lot of minor fringe benefits; that's why so many mortals are dying to get in

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I would fanwank that the planar material of their home plane, whether it is currently manifesting as water, the flesh of some other outsider, or a fancy meal of ambrosia and little pastries, just gets harmlessly absorbed into their own matter, with no excretion of excess.

Sit around in Elysium and drink ale with Cayden all day, and never have to pee. Heaven, indeed! Where does all the extra liquid go? It was never liquid in the first place! Plus, magic! We have different laws up here. Better ones. Now stop with the heavy thinking and try some of this dwarven stout. It's to die for...

But stuff from other planes, such as the aforementioned barghest eating people? Yeah, that probably is the typical 'garbage in, garbage out' process familiar to non-outsiders.


Yeah, I could imagine that denizens of the lower planes might actually revel in excrement.


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I recall reading an article that described how demons had totally disconnected eating from excretion. Most of them enjoyed the ability to foul things up with their excretions in a manner totally out of proportion to how much they had actually eaten.


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Yqatuba wrote:
It says they don't need to eat but still can if they want. So if they do eat are there any... byproducts?

They go - big time.

And not in the batthroom - that's how evil they are ...


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I cannot believe that this post has 17 responses lol.

Archimedes must study this age old mystery


So does this apply to my teiflimg character whos technically an outsider


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Nobody poops in Fantasy, so why would they?


Ravingdork wrote:
Nobody poops in Fantasy, so why would they?

Fair point.


Ravingdork wrote:
Nobody poops in Fantasy, so why would they?

Actually now that i think about it they did poop in south park stick of truth and thats the best fantasy game lol


What, you have never had to escort an opposite sex employer to the bathroom? Your GMs are either kind or overly delicate.

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Just remembered the Ninjas in the Loo incident. Don't you hate getting caught with your pants down, literally?


I assume people do poop in Pathfinder. It's just off camera because most people don't want to think about it.


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Korafireheart wrote:

So does this apply to my teiflimg character whos technically an outsider

Tieflings are Outsiders with the Native subtype:

"This subtype is applied only to outsiders. These creatures have mortal ancestors or a strong connection to the Material Plane and can be raised, reincarnated, or resurrected just as other living creatures can be. creatures with this subtype are native to the Material Plane. Unlike true outsiders, native outsiders need to eat and sleep."

So, they still need to eat, and poop.


Yqatuba wrote:
Do outsiders have to go to the bathroom?

No they go to the outhouse! XD

But seriously back to the more recent questions ... actually it looks like they've been answered.

From a realism perspective, there are creatures that are MUCH more efficient with their food than we are. Poop is the stuff we couldn't use, so we get rid of it. If you can use everything then you wouldn't need to poop - you'd burn the energy as fuel, lose it as shedding skin, things like that. I imagine Trolls poop less than other things since they'd need a huge reserve of energy to grow back limbs.

An interesting perspective on Evil outsiders is that their eating doesn't even fuel them, they just like doing it. That means they probably poop back 100% of what they ate (and consume the soul for nourishment or something).


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+1 for the concept that Outsiders convert any food/consumed product completely into energy, thus not leaving any by-products. They only produce excrement if they wish to do so (e.g., demons fouling things).

In a similar fashion, I remember an article (or was it a sourcebook?) in either 2e or 3.x which stated that Dragons also converted their food energy perfectly. This meant that "dragon droppings" never existed. Both of which were a good thing if one is prone to sleeping for a few hundred years ...

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If they do not excrete, then do they lack the orifice of egress, and does that affect a succubus' ability to entice into a grapple?


Samy wrote:
If they do not excrete, then do they lack the orifice of egress, and does that affect a succubus' ability to entice into a grapple?

If you're trying to imply what I think, no because they have another.. er, port of entry.


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Considering that they can shapechange, succubi could re-arrange their innards and orifices as they wish.


An outsider who polymorphs into a normal living being might need a quick briefing to avoid suffering Attila the Hun's fate then.


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According to the preeminent scholarly work on the subject, they do.

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