Scoured Stars Invasion Boon question (spoilers)


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First of all, further are spoilers from the special.

So I've got questions about the Scoured Stars Veteran boon.
Just a reminder, it reads "You can start a new character who begins at 2nd level. The new PC begins play with 3 XP, 2160 credits, 5 fame and 5 reputation with the faction that character selects a faction boon for. You must keep a copy of this sheet with the character."

1) Is it by any chance an example of bad wording or the new character actually loses out on those starting 1000 credits, i.e. has only about two thirds of the wealth a normal lvl 2 character would have?

2) What does "a new character" mean? What if I have some chronicles assigned to that number but didn't even bother to create a character? Simple examples of such chronicles are AP in campaign mode and GM credit. Can I finish the first book of an AP in campaign mode or GM a 1-4 game on 01.01.2019, then play the special on 02.01.2019 and then apply all that credit and the boon in question to one character?

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1) I believe they start with 3,160 credits, because if you look at how much you get per credit earned thats how much someone with one xp on their sheet would start with

2) except for race boons a new character means a brand new never had credit applied to them character

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Just remember, if you have a capstone boon, apply it before you "apply" the credit from Scoured Stars Veteran.


Sorry for the necromancy, but I'm preparing to start a new character after achieving Tier 4 with Exo-Guardians...

Glen Parnell wrote:
Just remember, if you have a capstone boon, apply it before you "apply" the credit from Scoured Stars Veteran.

Can you, though?

The "Rescued Starfinder" portion of the boon says, "You can start a new character who begins at 2nd level. This new PC begins play with 3 XP..."

That reads to me like that character didn't exist before having 3 XP and therefore was never a viable 0 XP target for a capstone.

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While I can't find it now (and I swore I had it saved) I believe Thurston clarified this Boon could be applied to any character with 0xp only.

You can have other Boons stacked before it, like Race Boons or Capstone Boons, but nothing that grants you actual XP.

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(we should probably start up a Campaign Clarifications thread like we had in PFS)


Nefreet wrote:

While I can't find it now (and I swore I had it saved) I believe Thurston clarified this Boon could be applied to any character with 0xp only.

You can have other Boons stacked before it, like Race Boons or Capstone Boons, but nothing that grants you actual XP.

If you manage to find it, I'd love to hear about it. :)

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Link to one Discussion Thurston was in.

Not sure if that did end up being his "final word".


Nefreet wrote:

Link to one Discussion Thurston was in.

Not sure if that did end up being his "final word".

Thank you!

Unfortunately that discussion kinda spiraled into GM babies that have a pile of credit but have never been played, when I'm more concerned about a new character that would start with the boon that starts a character with 3 XP. Was there a point between conception and the application of the boon where a capstone could be applied?

It looks like "no" but the spirit of Thursty's ruling is for the capstones to apply to new characters who have not been played, or even created, by the time the capstone was granted. This character has no other chronicles and would be starting well after the "big event" that caused the 1-99 boon, AND after the capstone became available.

So my timeline would be:

1. Achieve Tier 4 [Faction X] on parent character
2. Create baby character (assign a "70X" number)
3. Give capstone to new character with 0 XP & no chronicles
4. Apply Personal Race Admittance Boon to 1st level character with no chronicles (must be first chronicle, can be part of level 1 rebuilds)
5. Give Scoured Stars Veteran to new character (starts with 3 XP)

A strict reading suggests that the process with the 1-99 boon goes:

1. Achieve Tier 4 [Faction X] on parent character
2. Create baby character (assign a "70X" number)
3. Give Scoured Stars Veteran to new character (starts with 3 XP)
4. Cry because I have to use a core/legacy race and can't apply a that tier 4 capstone I qualified for, meaning that I'll have to create YET ANOTHER character to benefit from all the toys I've earned

So, if the boon really does like in the latter sequence, #5 in the former sequence simply doesn't work and I am briefly inconvenienced having to spend several weeks tracking down GMs willing to run the repeatable low level content (or being a GM willing to run repeatable low level content). I have to imagine that the intent of the boon is to reward loyal players with a pure convenience bonus of 15 hours of their life that they won't have to spend doing content they're already familiar with.

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Dracomicron wrote:

1. Achieve Tier 4 [Faction X] on parent character

2. Create baby character (assign a "70X" number)
3. Give capstone to new character with 0 XP & no chronicles
4. Apply Personal Race Admittance Boon to 1st level character with no chronicles (must be first chronicle, can be part of level 1 rebuilds)
5. Give Scoured Stars Veteran to new character (starts with 3 XP)

This is how it would have worked in PFS. I want to believe it works this way in SFS. More so because I can't read it any other way, and I like things to be consistent. Helps when explaining it to other people.

Maybe we should just shout "Thursty!" a bunch of times and leave an offering of flavorless protein wafers.

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Nefreet wrote:
Dracomicron wrote:
Maybe we should just shout "Thursty!" a bunch of times and leave an offering of flavorless protein wafers.

Not even back from my weekend when ya post this! ;)

That being said, I'll see about bringing this up as a discussion point in our next OP meeting so that I can get the team's thoughts as well. Hopefully this week (Seattle weather permitting).


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Thurston Hillman wrote:
Nefreet wrote:
Dracomicron wrote:
Maybe we should just shout "Thursty!" a bunch of times and leave an offering of flavorless protein wafers.

Not even back from my weekend when ya post this! ;)

That being said, I'll see about bringing this up as a discussion point in our next OP meeting so that I can get the team's thoughts as well. Hopefully this week (Seattle weather permitting).

Did the snow also screw up your quote tree nesting? Here in Minnesota we walk to school uphill (both ways) in 3 feet of snow and still get our quote trees right.

... >;D

I kid, I kid!

Thank you, Thursty. You know I appreciate all your hard work.

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Do you get your quote trees right? Do you? ;)


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Blake's Tiger wrote:
Do you get your quote trees right? Do you? ;)

I could fix it, but I appreciate the irony of being super wrong.

Wonder how that happened... forum bug?

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I believe that once it starts, quoting it perpetuates it.

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*Sigh*

Teach me to post without morning coffee.

Sczarni ***** ⦵⦵

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I *offered* you flavorless protein wafers.

Wayfinders ***** ⦵⦵

A little gnome quietly hands Thurston a space canteen full of Poshkettle tea. "It's not coffee, but this is the stuff that I brew up for the Shirren... It should wake you up fine!"


MURDERBOAT GET!!!

Mr. Thursty, may I please put Scoured Stars Veteran on my new character with the Exo-Guardians capstone?

*sad puppy eyes*

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