Clarification for Demon-Sworn Witch


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So I play a Demon-Sworn Witch in a Pathfinder homegame, I would love clarification on two things:

1) Does an infernal patron completely replace a typical witch patron (agility, trickery, healing, etc.) or just augment it by replacing certain spells on certain levels?

"A demon-sworn makes a pact with a demonic entity, forever binding her to the forces of the Abyss and corrupting her connection with her patron. At the indicated levels, she gains the spells below in place of her normal patron spells:

2nd—protection from good, 6th—unholy blight, 10th—dispel good, 14th—blasphemy, 18th—unholy aura.

Casting spells with the evil descriptor from this replacement list has no effect on the demonsworn’s alignment.

This ability modifies patron spells. "
(From d20pfsrd)

2) When I get my improved, quasit familiar at level 6....will it hate me the way it would a normal wizard’s quasit would? I tend to think it would be more in line with me, and really it’s up to my dm, but I’m curious what other people think.

Thanks in advance! :)


It just replaces certain spells at certain levels.

I would think it would hate you much more than normal. Unlike a regular improved familiar, where you at least have similar moral outlook, the Demon-Sworn quasit is there just as a part of deal between you and a greater power.

Of course, chaotic evil being chaotic evil, it is difficult for it to hate you more than normal. Certainly I don't see any justification for it hating you less.

(That said, personally as a GM I'm not going to turn a class feature that is nominally a benefit into a liability, but the little bugger would b%#$%, moan, complain, mock and generally make it clear it thought you were scum while remaining mechanically useful)


Dave Justus wrote:


I would think it would hate you much more than normal. Unlike a regular improved familiar, where you at least have similar moral outlook, the Demon-Sworn quasit is there just as a part of deal between you and a greater power.

Of course, chaotic evil being chaotic evil, it is difficult for it to hate you more than normal. Certainly I don't see any justification for it hating you less.

My GM/DM gave me a vision of the future when we found an artifact which promotes foresight, so I believe my GM is going to rock a love/hate relationship. Some pathfinder things are really open to interpretation. What gives me pause is the terms "loyally" and "to the best of its abilities" so it doesn't seem like it'd constantly be waiting for me to poorly execute an order so it can throw me under a bus.

Great to have clarification!


Redheaded_Wonder wrote:

My GM/DM gave me a vision of the future when we found an artifact which promotes foresight, so I believe my GM is going to rock a love/hate relationship. Some pathfinder things are really open to interpretation. What gives me pause is the terms "loyally" and "to the best of its abilities" so it doesn't seem like it'd constantly be waiting for me to poorly execute an order so it can throw me under a bus.

I think it would *want* to throw you under the bus, but would be magically bound to serve you loyally and to the best of its abilities. If I were the DM, I'd make the magical binding obvious in some way -- like, you give it an unclear order, it smirks and starts to slink off, and then suddenly it spasms and writhes in pain, little sparks shooting out of it. Or maybe it talks to itself, like Gollum. "We hates it, but... we is loyal. Must be loyal."

Or, heck, maybe it has a little second face growing out of its body somewhere, like a tumor. Mostly it's quiescent, but every now and then, when the quasit is swinging off the path of loyalty, it opens its eyes and frowns. And then the quasit cringes in terror and goes back to being loyal.

Doug M.

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