Is there something equivalent to the internet in Starfinder?


General Discussion


If so, what's it called?


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Maps, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Yup it's called the Infosphere. https://starfinderwiki.com/sf/Infosphere


However, there is nothing similar to eBay. At least where weapons and armor are concerned.


1 person marked this as a favorite.

The wiki article states, "Each of the planets in the Pact Worlds system hosts its own infosphere that is rarely synchronized with each other due to the lag time involved with interplanetary communication." I think that needs expansion and 'rarely' is too harsh.

I say banks pay to synchronize their transaction logs frequently to avoid people overdrawing and running away. You'd be hard pressed to outrun your banking history even in remote systems. Banks particularly regard adventurers as non-creditworthy and too risky.

Space Wikipedia updates more frequently than other non-profits, taking up to a week in-system, rather than up to a month, and up to a year galaxy-wide, rather than if you're lucky.

Space CNN updates as fast as communications allow.


3 people marked this as a favorite.

Whether there's something similar to eBay is up to the GM. My GM has already named services like Spoogle, FaceHug, and others :)


3 people marked this as a favorite.
Wingblaze wrote:
Whether there's something similar to eBay is up to the GM. My GM has already named services like Spoogle, FaceHug, and others :)

Arthropod seeking humanoid for face hugging fun and lifelong commitment.....


Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Space Ebay almost certainly exists. It just functions as the discretion of the GM. You are not allowed to try to force the GM to sell you stuff at a discount just because a setting feature exists.

Second Seekers (Luwazi Elsebo)

Since there is no faster than light communications, there is no galaxy or even intersystem internet. Once you leave a system, you are essentially cut off from the pact world for what could be months at a time, and should not have access to core world infospheres. Once in the vast, you are at the mercy of whatever infosphere equivalent they have, if they have anything at all.


4 people marked this as a favorite.

There's FTL communication. It's in the form of ships full of USB sticks. There isn't instantaneous communication, but you don't need to wait a few years for out-of-system news.

Acquisitives

6 people marked this as a favorite.
Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

The big social network is MYSPACE


Pathfinder Pawns, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
MaR-VN wrote:
Since there is no faster than light communications, there is no galaxy or even intersystem internet. Once you leave a system, you are essentially cut off from the pact world for what could be months at a time, and should not have access to core world infospheres. Once in the vast, you are at the mercy of whatever infosphere equivalent they have, if they have anything at all.

You can download the infosphere to your ship's computers whenever you're in spacedock. It's in the rules. Will provide quote once I remember where it is.


1 person marked this as a favorite.
Metaphysician wrote:
Space Ebay almost certainly exists. It just functions as the discretion of the GM. You are not allowed to try to force the GM to sell you stuff at a discount just because a setting feature exists.

You buy at 100% and sell at 10%. Which means either you're dealing with pawnshops rather than one-to-one (spaceBay doesn't really exist), or its charges are 90% of the value of the transaction.

Forcing the GM is not the point - the point is that the setting obviously includes no such feature.

Grand Lodge

2 people marked this as a favorite.

Or it takes time and effort to sell on SpaceBay, which in game terms comes out to rolling a profession check to make a living.


4 people marked this as a favorite.
Yakman wrote:
The big social network is MYSPACE

And the diaspora's premier real estate group is mine craft?


Yakman wrote:
The big social network is MYSPACE

Now that is funny.

Acquisitives

2 people marked this as a favorite.
Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Yakman wrote:
The big social network is MYSPACE
And the diaspora's premier real estate group is mine craft?

you can always reach out to the church of Saranrae on angelfire

Drow exclusively use webcrawler for search


The Sideromancer wrote:
There's FTL communication. It's in the form of ships full of USB sticks. There isn't instantaneous communication, but you don't need to wait a few years for out-of-system news.

You don't even need the courier ship - you can essentially send e-mail at FTL speeds. However, it travels at the same speed as a ship going through the Drift - I assume at basic Drift speed. So if you want a message sent fast, it can be faster to get a ship with a better Drift rating and send it there physically.


1 person marked this as a favorite.

It's all in the big book.

CRB page 430

Chapter 12: Setting

Communication

Spoiler:
Communication in the Pact Worlds falls into three categories:
planetary, system-wide, and unlimited. Although some powerful
governments and religious organizations occasionally make use
of expensive and dangerous supernatural communications, such
as employing angels and devils as messengers, most residents
of the Pact Worlds are restricted to the use of technology for
their long-range communications.

Unlike planetary comm units, system-wide and unlimited-
range communicators are far too large to be portable, so
they are usually integrated into starships or similarly sized
facilities. Individuals without their own units can usually pay
to send messages on rented ones. Receiving a message on a
system-wide or unlimited-range unit requires an active Drift
beacon transponder, which causes the receiver to broadcast
identification and location data. Thus many criminal enterprises
maintain virtual mail drops or black-market relays, trade in
counterfeit transponders, or simply turn off their transponders
and run dark. These transponders are standard on all starships
and function as a primary means of ship identification.

Planetary
Personal comm units are common, inexpensive devices that are
capable of communicating with each other on a single planet
or between ships orbiting a given world. Small enough to be
carried in a pocket, they also come automatically integrated into
all armor of 1st level or higher. While the units are powerful
enough to transmit anywhere on a planet, they can be halted
by targeted electromagnetic jamming or blocked by certain
materials or methods, as determined by the GM. Encryption
issues also make it impossible to use comm units to directly
control machines, such as drones and starships. While some
individuals link their comm units to operate as private, always-
on radio channels, most contact each other by entering publicly
registered names or private identification codes.

System-Wide
Due to the vast distances involved, interplanetary communication
involves significant time delays, resulting in something closer to
correspondence than conversation. The current best technology
uses Triune’s network of Drift beacons—while bouncing the
signal between them often mysteriously shortens the time
delay beyond what would normally be possible with physics, it
also randomizes the delay, making all messages within a solar-
system-sized area take 1d6–1 hours to reach their destination.

Unlimited
Like interplanetary communication, interstellar communication
relies on Drift beacons. Messages transmitted this way remain
a fundamentally epistolary form, since they take the same
amount of travel time as simply jumping to the recipient with a
starship—days or weeks (see page 291). Thus, courier ships and
ambassadorial missions still remain popular for negotiations
and time-sensitive information. As with Drift travel itself,
while there’s theoretically no maximum range for this form of
communication, no one has ever received a return signal from
beyond the edge of the galaxy.

Information Networks

Spoiler:
Planets vary wildly in their levels of telecommunications and
integration, but each Pact World has at least a rudimentary version
of an infosphere: a worldwide network of digitized information.
Due to the necessity of transmitting information physically, these
infospheres are largely unconnected, and neighboring worlds
may share core information but diverge wildly on lesser issues
that haven’t been worth the effort of synchronizing. While these
infospheres are often similar to Earth’s Internet, holding nearly
limitless amounts of economic and cultural ephemera, all major
Pact Worlds ports host basic encyclopedia-like data sets that
ships can download to aid passengers in research when not
in direct contact with an infosphere. For more information on
network-aided research, see page 133


Pathfinder Pawns, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
The Ragi wrote:
While these infospheres are often similar to Earth’s Internet, holding nearly limitless amounts of economic and cultural ephemera, all major Pact Worlds ports host basic encyclopedia-like data sets that ships can download to aid passengers in research when not in direct contact with an infosphere.

Thanks! This is what I was referring to in my previous post, but I was unable to track it down.


2 people marked this as a favorite.

Future Uber is Lyftoff


The Ragi wrote:

Although some powerful

governments and religious organizations occasionally make use
of expensive and dangerous supernatural communications, such
as employing angels and devils as messengers, most residents
of the Pact Worlds are restricted to the use of technology for
their long-range communications.

New idea for a creature. An outsider that's easier/cheaper to summon with planar binding, and has integrated usb sticks for easy file transfer across the universe. 50% chance it attempts to hack your computer/install a software imp/etc.

Acquisitives

1 person marked this as a favorite.
Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Future Uber is Lyftoff

i like it.

the PCU is a Galaxy with Android OS

but they just handed us that one.

sunspotify is the biggest music streaming platform

Acquisitives

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

and for 1 hour delivery, the natural answer is "kozmo"

yup, it was a thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kozmo.com


2 people marked this as a favorite.
Garretmander wrote:
The Ragi wrote:

Although some powerful

governments and religious organizations occasionally make use
of expensive and dangerous supernatural communications, such
as employing angels and devils as messengers, most residents
of the Pact Worlds are restricted to the use of technology for
their long-range communications.
New idea for a creature. An outsider that's easier/cheaper to summon with planar binding, and has integrated usb sticks for easy file transfer across the universe. 50% chance it attempts to hack your computer/install a software imp/etc.

Or an outsider with a purely digital form. It exists in a network.

Server Daemon? yes, literally.


Also the reason I brought this up is I had a semi-serious idea for a monster myself: a type of demon created from especially cruel and horrible internet trolls that is like a combination of a demon and a troll (as in the monster).


I assume FTL is possible in Starfinder considering that in Pathfinder there is a spell (interplanetary teleport) which can teleport you to another planet instantly even if it's millions of light years away.


Yqatuba wrote:
I assume FTL is possible in Starfinder considering that in Pathfinder there is a spell (interplanetary teleport) which can teleport you to another planet instantly even if it's millions of light years away.

It isn't really FTL, it is more PPT ( planar piercing travel) with a device called the drift engine.

Interplanetary travel is a spell in Starfinder it is just a 6th level spell which is the highest caster level in the system.

Sovereign Court

2 people marked this as a favorite.
Yqatuba wrote:
I assume FTL is possible in Starfinder considering that in Pathfinder there is a spell (interplanetary teleport) which can teleport you to another planet instantly even if it's millions of light years away.

There are a couple of creatures that have native FTL flight abilities. Tritidair Azatas seem to move through regular space at Drift 5 speeds. I think that makes them the fastest creatures in the universe right now.

But most other "FTL" is actually a trick: move from this plane to another plane which is scaled differently than ours, move a short distance there, pop back into our plane much farther away. It can be Heaven, Hell, or most commonly the Drift.


What about the Shantak? It says it can fly to another solar system in only 3d20 days max, which I doubt would be possible if you're limited to lightspeed. (for reference, the closest star besides the sun is about 4 light years away)

Sovereign Court

There's various creatures like that, I think oma is supposed to be able to as well (AA1 doesn't have the Starflight universal monster rule yet, AA2 does). In Pathfinder there's a bunch more creatures capable of interstellar travel within a few weeks.


Yakman wrote:
The big social network is MYSPACE

I switched to SpaceBook a while back.


warmachine wrote:

The wiki article states, "Each of the planets in the Pact Worlds system hosts its own infosphere that is rarely synchronized with each other due to the lag time involved with interplanetary communication." I think that needs expansion and 'rarely' is too harsh.

I say banks pay to synchronize their transaction logs frequently to avoid people overdrawing and running away. You'd be hard pressed to outrun your banking history even in remote systems. Banks particularly regard adventurers as non-creditworthy and too risky.

Space Wikipedia updates more frequently than other non-profits, taking up to a week in-system, rather than up to a month, and up to a year galaxy-wide, rather than if you're lucky.

Space CNN updates as fast as communications allow.

In system I expect most of the bank records/important stuff should be updated weekly or faster depending if something needs a courier or if it can be transmitted directly non drift mode. Anything that uses drift even in system is imposing a few days of lag.

So there is no real time syncing but I assume most info spheres have as fast of contact with each other as they can lightspeed/drift depending.


The Sideromancer wrote:
There's FTL communication. It's in the form of ships full of USB sticks. There isn't instantaneous communication, but you don't need to wait a few years for out-of-system news.

This is one of my groups side gigs for upgrading their ship. Info Traders they back up all the infosphere data they can when they are in civilized ports and then when they are out there in the wild dark they can trade copies to settlements and colonies so they can get word from back home/ find out who shot JR/ Did the 49ers win the murderbowl cup so on and so forth.

But since data can't pass faster than the speed of light in a transmission any faster than you can just carry it by ship even in a system keeping info spheres totally synced is not possible. If worlds are close speed of light could keep them mostly synced but the farther out in the system you go the time lag involved becomes worse and worse so doing massive data syncing with that kind of latency is likely something that does not happen every day. Once a week for normal banking transactions is likely pretty common. In theory you could get it sooner some weeks but if you wanted to give a time frame you knew you would always be able to hit for reliability 1 week in system is about it.


FirstChAoS wrote:
Garretmander wrote:
The Ragi wrote:

Although some powerful

governments and religious organizations occasionally make use
of expensive and dangerous supernatural communications, such
as employing angels and devils as messengers, most residents
of the Pact Worlds are restricted to the use of technology for
their long-range communications.
New idea for a creature. An outsider that's easier/cheaper to summon with planar binding, and has integrated usb sticks for easy file transfer across the universe. 50% chance it attempts to hack your computer/install a software imp/etc.

Or an outsider with a purely digital form. It exists in a network.

Server Daemon? yes, literally.

This is why technomancers need digital familiar.


Another thought I had: Is there anything like Facebook on the Infosphere? And do gods have their own Facebook pages? ;)


Abadar Corp is the church of abadar/full on amazon.com there's no way there's no spacebook page.

Community / Forums / Starfinder / Starfinder General Discussion / Is there something equivalent to the internet in Starfinder? All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.
Recent threads in Starfinder General Discussion