Competitive +1 to every skill?


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Competitive +1 to every skill?

You grew up and were raised around fabulous sporting events, and your youth was consumed with a driving need to be better than everyone else. Any hint of a contest spurs you to your greatest heights of potential.

Benefit(s): Whenever another creature within 30 feet attempts a skill check and you attempt a check with the same skill before the start of that creature’s next turn, you gain a +1 trait bonus on your check (this includes attempting an opposed skill check against the creature).

to looks like to me, that would get +1 to almost everything. Buy just rolling after a player. Or how do you read it?

Silver Crusade

What is the actual point of your question?

Scarab Sages

It does what it says it does. If someone else rolls a skill check within 30ft, and you roll the same skill check before that creature gets another turn, you get a +1 trait bonus to it.


Yes it'll give you a +1 to any skill as long as you're going after someone else who tried to use that skill.

Note that it's a Trait bonus, so won't stack with other Trait bonuses.


Competitive seems to help often, but not as much as you might think.

If the GM is asking the entire group for a perception check, you shouldn't get this bonus. People aren't actively searching, just spotting something because you have high perception isn't a competition. Now once someone declares they are searching, then you get the bonus.

If you get involved in a skill challenge, do you really want to take advantage of this bonus? If you aren't the best in the group, do you want to use your lesser skills and risk triggering something bad? If you are the best in the group, do you want someone less skilled to go first so you get a +1 bonus? Aid should trigger this, but its the exact opposite of competition. Should that really give you the competitive bonus? Probably not.

Now when everyone is trying to make athletic checks to avoid falling into a pit, even though everyone is going simultaneously I think you should get your +1 because you want to out perform everyone. Because you are 'that guy'.


This is handy for skills that the entire group will have to perform anyway, so long as the checks aren't simultaneous. Not terribly useful when you're trying to disarm a trap or when you're all making Perception checks to notice the dire tiger leaping from concealment onto Bob's face.

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