News: Microsoft Announces Intent to Acquire Obsidian and InXile


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From IGN, Microsoft has announced its intention to acquire Obsidian Entertainment (Pillars of Eternity) and InXile (Wasteland 2/3, Torment: Tides of Numenera).

Thoughts?


No doubt to empty them out like they have other franchises. There is even a meme picture about it.

"Look at the flowers, Obsidian."


What PG said.

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inXile? Probably a good thing; they make halfway decent games, but Brian Fargo has a way higher sense of his capability as a lead and game designer than reality appears to indicate. (Was deeply disappointed by Wasteland 2, and the gap between promises vs what was delivered, especially WRT how f&!%ing railroaded the whole game was when he advertised freedom of choice. Based on what I've seen of him, he is unwilling to take criticism or see flaws in his own work, which is a HUGE flaw in a leader.) I don't think they were really destined to last much longer. If they do keep them around, I hope they are given some stronger direction and leadership, which they could use.

Obsidian, on the other hand... it is both surprising and maybe distressing. My uninformed gut reaction was this is a death knell for them. This is of course not the company line, which is that they hope their partnership gives them resources they need to produce better games. This I believe includes a sci-fi game they are currently working on. I of course hope for the best, for both companies and their fans.

At least Chris Avellone got out when he did. Which apparently was on bad terms, and his official word to Microsoft is "fire the managers and keep the devs".

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Deathquaker, different strokes for different folks I guess. I loved Wasteland 2, and expect to love Bard's Tale IV (but it's sidelined for Pathfinder Kingmaker now). I was far less enthusiastic about POE 1 & 2 from Obsidian though. Stories were good, but the gameplay was meh to boring often. I'm very concerned that inXile under Microsoft will even be allowed to make new turn based games.

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Well if they move to Games for Windows Live instead of offering GOG or Steam licenses, I'll be a lost customer.

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JoelF847, my issue with inXile is more about promises versus what was delivered, and the fact that Fargo doesn't acknowledge those things much. I would have enjoyed Wasteland 2 far more for what it was, than if I wasn't always trying to compare it to what they said it would be. For a different example, I thought Torment TTON was good, but that doesn't preclude the fact it was missing several things and opportunities that would they said would be in the game and just never materialized or were answered for in what I felt was an adequate manner. Yes, POE also came in short on some Kickstarter promises, though IMO they made up for most of those by the end of the game's development cycle. In general I feel like Obsidian does a better job of both setting expectations and owning it when things don't quite as planned (like, for example, acknowledging the many problems with Alpha Protocol (though, while extremely flawed, is the best example of choice and consequences in an RPG that I have ever played)).

And Obsidian has also still widely missed the mark sometimes in setting expectations... I just think they are still way better at it than inXile IMO.

We may disagree on game-style preferences, but that's not what I'm talking about here. And, I think inXile has some fine developers. Their leadership is what I'm concerned with.

Archmagi1, Games for Windows Live was discontinued at least four years ago. That's a non-issue.

The intention of the purchase APPEARS to hire both to make new RPGs. But turn-based? I do not know.

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DeathQuaker wrote:
Archmagi1, Games for Windows Live was discontinued at least four years ago. That's a non-issue.

HAHA, because of course it did. Well this isn't as bad as I thought then.

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The bigger concern for some might be that any console ports will be X-box exclusive, and/or everything will be *required* to port to X-box (which means no super-traditional computer RPGs). Which isn't necessarily a bad thing but may be a turnoff to some for various reasons.

But yes, the end of GFWL was a good thing welcomed by all. IIRC many games that had it now have it patched out (like Fallout 3).


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The bigger concern for some might be that any console ports will be X-box exclusive, and/or everything will be *required* to port to X-box (which means no super-traditional computer RPGs). Which isn't necessarily a bad thing but may be a turnoff to some for various reasons.

But yes, the end of GFWL was a good thing welcomed by all. IIRC many games that had it now have it patched out (like Fallout 3).

I think it is quite possible, xbone has been sitting on their bluetooth keyboard/mass PC game port plans for a WHILE now, and I think that when released it will coincide with more computer RPGs on xbone.


I really enjoyed WASTELAND 2 and it appears that WASTELAND 3 is close enough to completion that it won't be affected by whatever happens here.

A lot of talent has left Obsidian (most notably Avellone; based on PoE 1 and 2, Sawyer is in decline and declining with each game) so this is not as disastrous as it could have been, but still disappointing. I was especially impressed with the excellent and underrated TYRANNY, and would have enjoyed seeing what that team could have come up with next.

The big question mark now is over Tim Cain's project, which Obsidian has been working on in secret for about 3 years.

What would be ironic is if Microsoft now re-commission STORMLANDS as their X-Box 2 launch game :)

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The bigger concern for some might be that any console ports will be X-box exclusive, and/or everything will be *required* to port to X-box (which means no super-traditional computer RPGs). Which isn't necessarily a bad thing but may be a turnoff to some for various reasons.

I believe Microsoft's official position now is that all of their games - X-Box and PC - will come out on both PC and X-Box 1. This has been necessitated by XB1's disappointing sales, so to try to even out the issue there will be no more XB1-only-exclusives. Even the next HALO game will come out on PC as well.

All of the games will be Windows 10 exclusives, though.

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HAHA, because of course it did. Well this isn't as bad as I thought then.

Not quite. It's been replaced by the Microsoft/X-Box Store App (only available via Windows 10), which is still awful, just not as awful as GFWL.


Obsidian announce their new RPG tomorrow. From the look of it's going to be a space-set RPG with a retrofuturistic setting (a bit like FLASH GORDON or BUCK ROGERS).

What's getting a lot of people excited is that it's been co-developed by Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky, the co-creators of the original FALLOUT, and both have described it as their dream project which they've wanted to make for years. Boyarsky wanted to make it so much he was tempted away from Blizzard, where he'd been working on the DIABLO series (he worked on a lot of the lore and story for DIABLO III and REAPER OF SOULS) for a lot more money. Cain and Boyarsky's other greatest hits are ARCANUM: OF STEAMWORKS AND MAGICKA OBSCURA and VAMPIRE: THE MASQUERADE - BLOODLINES, which are both regarded as among the greatest CRPGs ever made (along with FALLOUT, of course).

Also interesting is that the game had a pre-agreed publishing deal with another company, so it's not been impacted by the Microsoft buy-out.

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And the announcement trailer is out!
The Outer Worlds.

I think I'm going to have to finally buy a new computer next year!


Ooooh, looks pretty fun! Definitely keeping an eye on this one. ^^


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It looks legitimately fantastic. Also, the "FROM THE MAKERS OF FALLOUT" and "FROM THE DEVELOPERS OF FALLOUT: NEW VEGAS" could only be bested by adding "AND ABSOLUTELY NO-ONE INVOLVED IN FALLOUT 76 IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER."


Gamespot have a 22-minute video which has a lot of gameplay, which is looking great so far (some room for improvement on animations though).

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After Bioware and Bethesda both deciding they want to make MMORPGs from now on and screw the people who loved their games, I am so incredibly excited for this game.


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After Bioware and Bethesda both deciding they want to make MMORPGs from now on and screw the people who loved their games, I am so incredibly excited for this game.

Whilst I appreciate the sentiment - that BioWare and Bethesda have increasingly left the core RPG fanbase behind to chase big money from grognards - Bethesda have two single-player RPGs in development, so that's not entirely fair to them (although Bethesda need to massively up their game).

BioWare I think are a lost cause, increasingly so as more and more people leave the company for other opportunities. When one of your lead writers says working for AAA shovelware outfit Ubisoft is better than BioWare, that's...concerning. If Dragon Age 4 is a single-player-focused RPG, drops the open world approach (BioWare are terrible at it and don't understand how it works), gets some good writers back in and delivers a more focused, memorable game, that would be a start.

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