Creating a Ring Leader Bard / Sensei Monk Build


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Hello,

I am trying to think up a creative helper build using Ring Leader Bard and Sensei monk. I have noticed that Sensei Monk kind of overlaps with the bard but it is still missing some of what a bard can offer.

I am asking for advice on how to make this build the most viable. I am still fairly new to building characters so the advice is appreciated.

I am also open to better suggestions on how to create a helper build if someone has a more creative or stable build in mind.

Thank you in advance for the help!


What exactly do you want this character to be good at, and is it meant as a PC or an NPC?

Also: a Bard makes everyone better at what they do already; a Sensei is more about granting new abilities. In both cases, the size and composition of their party is relevant. So who will your Bardonk be hanging out with?


VRMH wrote:

What exactly do you want this character to be good at, and is it meant as a PC or an NPC?

Also: a Bard makes everyone better at what they do already; a Sensei is more about granting new abilities. In both cases, the size and composition of their party is relevant. So who will your Bardonk be hanging out with?

This bardonk is going to be a PC. I am looking to create a PC who is less of a fighter and more of an instructor/battlefield control.

This is for PFS games so size and composition of party can be variable at all times which makes it a bit harder. However let's go for max table size of 6 (composition could still be anything).

I haven't really worked with either class much before but thought of the idea of using the ring leader and sensei archetypes together when hearing and reading a bit more about them.

If you have a different idea on how to achieve the same goal I am more than happy to listen.


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To further add to my analysis on this build it would only take two levels of bard to get the best out of the ringleader bard without considering what a later level bard can do.

Where I stated that these two archetypes overlap is a sensei monk uses what is essentially bardic performance as well though for different reasons

I am looking for advice on how to balance this character properly to use all of what it offers as well as advice on how best to play such a character since I have not played a character so specific in the use of it's skills.

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