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♫ Oh, Buddy Dan, the pipes, the pipes are calling
From the varied soundsets of dulcet Syrinscape
Facing Wednesday without you? The thought's appalling
It’s us that stay while your adventure takes its shape

But come ye back when spring brings us PaizoCon,
Or when the team publishes platyparians
In Starfinder Wednesday your legacy lives on
Oh, Buddy Dan, oh Buddy Dan, we love you so! ♫

Source: Danny Boy


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Did Dan take a job with Syrinscape?

Grand Lodge

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Yes, Dan took a job with Syrinscape!

Dan Tharp wrote:
For short period of time, I will be a part-time employee to produce and run tech on Oblivion Oath once a week. Aside from that, I'll be working with Syrinscape. Since they are a licensee, I'll still be around the Paizo family!


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I'm glad he's still going to be in the industry. Syrinscape is one of those up and comers in my mind and I really hope Dan prospers with them.


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As a new player to SFS, I can safely say that Dan's enthusiasm for the show has been addictive, and a great source of information into lore design.

Marketing Manager

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❤ Strawberry Machine Cake ❤ wrote:

♫ Oh, Buddy Dan, the pipes, the pipes are calling

From the varied soundsets of dulcet Syrinscape
Facing Wednesday without you? The thought's appalling
It’s us that stay while your adventure takes its shape

But come ye back when spring brings us PaizoCon,
Or when the team publishes platyparians
In Starfinder Wednesday your legacy lives on
Oh, Buddy Dan, oh Buddy Dan, we love you so! ♫

Source: Danny Boy

This is magical. Not gonna lie, I got a little misty-eyed.

When SMC sends you off with a song... you know you made it.
<3

Marketing Manager

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guigoxford wrote:
As a new player to SFS, I can safely say that Dan's enthusiasm for the show has been addictive, and a great source of information into lore design.

Ah, jeez. Thank you!!

Liberty's Edge

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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Will there be a Starfinder Wednesday this week? :)


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I'll miss you as host. I look forward to whatever comes next.

Sovereign Court Creative Director, Starfinder

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Hey everyone,

There will not be a Starfinder Wednesday this week. The show is on hiatus until we can find a replacement for Dan to host and produce it. We'll be back, though, and we'll be sure to let you all know when we're ready to start again!

Thank you to everyone for your continued interest in the show, and we can't wait to get back to streaming more Starfinder goodness for you as soon as we can!

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Fair enough, come back soon! <3 :(


Logical. We await the replacement.


So I take it pathfinder Friday is cancelled as
well and the only remaining stream is oblivion oath?

Grand Lodge

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Yep. I keep thinking that we all need to get together in a discord channel or something and chat about topics, but it's not as much fun without Dan and the authors being there. This was the one show I made an effort to catch every week.

Second Seekers (Luwazi Elsebo)

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There’s a void in my daughter and my routine on Wednesday nights now. She gets out of gymnastics 10 minutes before the show. We’d head over to Culver’s and grab a bite to eat. I’d unpack my laptop and we’d share earbuds between us and listen while we ate dinner together. Afterward we’d head home and put Pungeon Crawl on the TV in the living room to relax and listen to after she got ready for bed.

Our daddy-daughter Starfinder Wednesdays are now something of a void. So we’re spending the time talking about the good times on the show.

With season 2 of Pungeon Crawl ending as well, Wednesday just isn’t the same.


I'm sure it'll be back and running sooner than later. The twitch and livestreaming popularity isn't something Paizo as a company wants to miss out on especially considering it was starting to really catch some steam.

Second Seekers (Jadnura)

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Pathfinder Starfinder Society Subscriber

So it's been a few weeks, and I got the "Dan saying Alright! after every sign off" itch, and, uh, well, long story short, I may have gone slightly crazy. Anyways, please enjoy this clipshow of what is, to me, the best part of every episode. The moment of goofiness in the transition just gets me. "Pause for edit" makes me laugh, every single time :D
(Episodes 20+ forthcoming.)

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Any word on when the Starfinder/Pathfinder segments are coming back?

Silver Crusade

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ograx wrote:
Any word on when the Starfinder/Pathfinder segments are coming back?

The position isn't listed on the Careers page anymore, so hopefully there will be an announcement soon!

Grand Lodge

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I miss this show terribly. It was an awesome place to be a Starfinder fan.

Hmm

Liberty's Edge

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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
Cori Marie wrote:
ograx wrote:
Any word on when the Starfinder/Pathfinder segments are coming back?
The position isn't listed on the Careers page anymore, so hopefully there will be an announcement soon!

I am getting withdraws :(

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Same, avowed enemy, same. They were a great way to end my Wednesdays and Fridays at work.

Scarab Sages Starfinder Design Lead

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The timing of things -- PaizoCon, UKGE, shipping new books -- just means it's going to take some time to get the right person in, spin them up, and have shows again.

I miss them too, but I want everyone to have the time they need to make good shows return.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Oh, I completely understand! I miss them, but I want them to be as good as they were with our good buddy Dan, so I can wait. In the meantime, I still have the playtest videos to watch, and that will get me through some of it.

Paizo Employee Starfinder Society Developer

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Personal [Starfinder Wednesday-adjacent] Plug:

This Wednesday (June 26th) , starting at 7pm CST over at https://www.twitch.tv/officialpaizo, we'll be starting a whole new Starfinder campaign for our "Pungeon Crawl" stream show: Pungeon Crawl "Workable Absurdity". If you're interested in seeing how I GM, and want to watch a cast of amazing players, I highly suggest you come out and watch!

While the show is 100% non-canonical to the setting, there have been a few things from the show that have snuck into Starfinder! So, I'd just like to invite everyone to come out and join us!

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Can confirm, Pungeon Crawl is awesome and filled with awesome people.

Paizo Employee Starfinder Society Developer

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Aaaaaaaaaand, I had to cancel like a jerk due to a family emergency involving paramedics and a trip to the hospital (everyone is OK).

But, NEXT WEEK (Wednesday July 3rd), by Grabthar's Hammer, we are starting this new campaign! You should be there, it's going to be ridiculous :)


Rude!

More seriously *channels positive feelings and offers hugs*


Sorry to hear about that. But at least you have Grabthar's Hammer (and everyone is okay).

Grand Lodge

I am sorry to hear about your family trip to the paramedics, Thursty. I hope everyone is well. :)

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Can we continue to use this thread to ask our burning Starfinder Wednesday-type questions of the developers? One question that was asked recently in my lodge was about the design choice to have the Starfinder AP volumes have a slimmer profile -- nearly 30 pages shorter than Pathfinder ones. Now I have not missed those 30 pages... Each Starfinder AP volume has been a really great assortment of adventure and back matter. But I am wondering about the design choices that went into going with the slimmer format. I'm wondering if Jason Keeley or the outgoing Owen would like to comment on this.

Hmm

Paizo Employee Developer

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Hmm wrote:

I am sorry to hear about your family trip to the paramedics, Thursty. I hope everyone is well. :)

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Can we continue to use this thread to ask our burning Starfinder Wednesday-type questions of the developers? One question that was asked recently in my lodge was about the design choice to have the Starfinder AP volumes have a slimmer profile -- nearly 30 pages shorter than Pathfinder ones. Now I have not missed those 30 pages... Each Starfinder AP volume has been a really great assortment of adventure and back matter. But I am wondering about the design choices that went into going with the slimmer format. I'm wondering if Jason Keeley or the outgoing Owen would like to comment on this.

Hmm

As far as I understand how this happened, the Starfinder team was very small at the beginning. Smaller than the team working on Pathfinder APs and hardbacks combined at the time, to say the least. We were working on that Core Rulebook at the same time as AP #1 (and preliminary work for Alien Archive), so the decision was made to put out shorter AP volumes at bimonthly intervals as just didn't have the staff to do more.

As you know, we have (had *sad face*) a few more people than before, and we've increased the frequency of the AP volumes, which I truly hope people are enjoying! Will we ever make the volumes larger too? That's a question I can't answer.

Hope that answers your question!

Grand Lodge

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Ah, lack of staff -- that's a good reason. I do hope you get awesome replacement staff. Thanks, Jason!

Hugs,
Hmm


Um, since you have some more staff...can we up the page count a little? Particularly on the back matter.


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Yeah, the adventure lengths are perfect. But with fewer product lines, the AP volumes have thus far been the bulk of where we're getting new game material. I'd gladly pay the extra $2 (difference in price between SF and PF AP volumes) as a subscriber for the extra 32 pages.


Honestly, I love the Adventure Path format - there's so much packed into such a tight space that every issue feels like it adds something significant to the game. If there's one thing I hope eventually gets added, however, it's the bits of short fiction you'll often find in Pathfinder APs. Those really add so much to the experience and make everything feel so alive. In lieu of any Starfinder Tales for the foreseeable future, a couple pages here and there immersing us into a scene (rather than the AP's method of paraphrasing what's going on) stands to add something significant to Starfinder's world.

Also, is the Starfinder team looking to bring someone new to the show now that Owen's leaving? There seemed to be some suggestion Joe Pasini might pick up Owen's former role.

Scarab Sages Starfinder Design Lead

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To be honest, the Starfinder team is doing herculean work to successfully produce the pages/year we are now. And even when Chris Sims and I are replaced, the two new people on the team are going to need time to get up to speed. Heck, I was with Starfinder from pretty near the beginning, and once we moved on from the Core Rulebook *I* needed time to get up to speed.

And while staffing is one reason the Sf APs are shorter, it's not the only one. Some people prefer shorter adventures. Some people prefer cheaper adventures (because, if they were bigger, they'd cost more--and a 50% boost in pagecount has to be made up somewhere). And some folks would want more adventure pages, and some would want more backmatter pages, and some would NOT want the adventures to be longer, and some are already annoyed there's rules content in an adventure at all...

Right now, Paizo can experiment with two different lengths of APs, and the SF ones are the smaller risk when we ask if we can try out 3-issue APs, or have an AP that doesn't start at 1st level. Since the SF APs are less of an investment, and experiment is less of a total risk. I think those experiments have been useful, and I encourage Paizo to keep some venue to try them out.

And if we DID get more staff, are more AP pages where we want that additional capacity to go? (And it's not *all* about the SF staff. Everything we do goes through the same editing and layout and marketing process and departments as all paizo products. So if we wanted more pages edited, we'd need more editors. If we want more pages laid out, we need more layout artists and graphic designers.)

Paizo tends to err on the side of not expanding too quickly, and having been laid off from a major rpg publisher once already in my career because they expanded too quickly, I'm in favor of that approach.

And it's not a simple 1 to 1. If we hire ONE full-time extra Starfinder person, they might (for example) only create enough extra content for 1/3 another layout artist. So if we want to offer someone a full-time position, we'd need to hire 3 new designers/developers, and that might create enough material to need 1.5 editors... but if we want 2 full time editors, that would mean 4.5 designers...

Now there are lots of ways to work around these problems, of course. Some people are double/triple/quadruple threats. Some tasks take more or less of different departments time. Some projects need extra capacity above the minimum as a buffer, and so on. And all the numbers I am using are just theoreticals, to explain the general point.

But the short version is, even if we knew for certain that making bigger, more expensive APs would make enough additional profit to justify hiring someone to do it... that is only one piece of a big, complex puzzle management has to look at, and it may still not make business sense to hire that person and expand the products that way.

Paizo Employee Developer

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Well put, Owen!


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*Ahem.*

The Pact World's most iconic entertainer looks out at the Camera. "Has anyone else noticed a new emergence on the Material Plane? With the hiring of Payton, and the re-launch of Pathfinder Friday, can Starfinder Wednesday be far behind?"

WELCOME, PAYTON!


Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:

To be honest, the Starfinder team is doing herculean work to successfully produce the pages/year we are now. And even when Chris Sims and I are replaced, the two new people on the team

Are you guys actually being replaced??

Moving on?

Grand Lodge

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Yes, at PaizoCon, Chris Simms announced he was leaving the team, and Owen just had his last day at Paizo. He's relocating because of his wife's job opportunities.

Both will be sorely missed, though I'm sure the new team members will be awesome.

Hmm


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Hmm wrote:

Yes, at PaizoCon, Chris Simms announced he was leaving the team, and Owen just had his last day at Paizo. He's relocating because of his wife's job opportunities.

Both will be sorely missed, though I'm sure the new team members will be awesome.

Hmm

Actually, I believe they are under a contractual obligation to be awesome.


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paizo just answered me on yt. sfw will come back after gen con :O


Sadly, I only recently had time to look into Starfinder. My party is creating PCs, and I'm consuming material as fast as I can. I'm super excited, because I love everything I've seen so far.

I'm making my way through the SFW vids on YT and and plan to start watching on Twitch live, so I can see the Q&A.

Is this where new episodes are announced, or does each episode get its own thread?

Is August 7th or 14th the next episode?

Thank you very much,
George


They stopped a bit for a while as the guy who did them moved on to a different career.

Try Know Direction BEYOND for your starfinder fix.


BigNorseWolf wrote:

They stopped a bit for a while as the guy who did them moved on to a different career.

Try Know Direction BEYOND for your starfinder fix.

Thank you. I'll check that out.

Social Media Producer

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Heya Folks!

Wanted to give you all a heads up that Starfinder Wednesdays will be making a return. Along with Pathfinder Fridays. Some positional and structure adjustments may occur to the show while I still get use to everyone. But I am super excited to meet all of you and show off what the team has been busting their bums for!

According to this paper I have, the next show should be on the 14th of August. At 1 PM Pacific time.

Sadly no show on the week of my post here. As several folks are taking a well deserved break from Gen Con!

I hope to see you all there. And I hope I can make you all proud!

Paizo Employee Developer

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Payton Smith wrote:
According to this paper I have, the next show should be on the 14th of August. At 1 PM Pacific time.

Can't wait to join you for a chat about the weird and wild stuff in Alien Archive 3!

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

So earlier start times than previously?

Social Media Producer

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It's earlier start times currently due to folks schedules around the office. Once things calm down we will try to transition it back to it's old time slot to best fit with viewers times. This should be temporary as we get things sorted on our end.


Are we still doing questions from the community? If so, I've got one. In the Secrets of the Pact Worlds Q&A, the mechanics of AI in Starfinder was brought up twice: once about SFS's Guidance, and another time about the role of artificial intelligence in the Pact Worlds. Ya'll mentioned you've avoided stating out AIs for the very excellent reason that putting them in an equipment book like an item would broach the problem of treating sentient creatures like slaves. So can we expect to see disembodied AIs in an Alien Archives book sometime soon?

Considering disembodied AIs are such a huge element (even genre) of science fiction, embodied by the likes of Cortana, HAL 9000, SHODAN, GLaDOS, Tron, MCU Jarvis, Star Trek Voyager's "The Doctor," The Machine from Person of Interest, Asimov's Multivac, Wintermute from Neuromancer, Mass Effect's EDI, Overwatch's Athena, and many more (to say nothing of the notable AIs in Starfinder itself, such as Guidance, M2, and Ex Novo's sentient AI program, and possibly Triune themself) it seems really weird that if we wanted to include one in a story of our own, there's simply no way of doing that without homebrewing something.

Question: Pathfinder already includes stats for disembodied AI programs in Iron Gods/Technology Guide (they were even their own creature type), and Starfinder seems like an even better fit for these critters. Are they a creature ya'll have considered making (or maybe even have made) in an Alien Archive release?

Thanks so much for your time. Words can't express how much fun Starfinder's brought me and my friends.

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