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First time I got to watch the whole thing live and it was an excellent show. Thanks to the Paizo team for going the extra mile!


Dan Tharp wrote:


12/12 - Biohacker: Jason Keeley and Owen K.C. Stephens

For the Q&A:

Can you put a serum of healing on an injection weapon and use it to heal other characters?

Serums
"Serums are vials of magic liquid that you can imbibe as a standard action or carefully trickle down the throat of a helpless or unconscious creature as a full action."

Darts
While most combatants rely on darts to deliver toxins to enemies, particularly desperate or overworked field medics sometimes employ darts to conveniently deliver antitoxins, healing serums, and other beneficial drugs across a crowded battlefield.

Without this option, the biohacker loses some of his thunder.

Acquisitives

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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Zo! wrote:
"Yo, my man Dan!" Zo! points a bony finger at Dan Tharp. "Tell Owen that the next time he holds a death match with spoons, my crew needs to be there to film it! Just sayin'."

Sorry Zo! The contract advance payment didn't come through before the deathmatch, and... you know...

No credits, no broadcast.

But... it's Zo! You know he's good for it.


Can the biohacker inject himself as an attack using an injection weapon and attack someone else with the same or other weapon as part of a full attack?

"An injection can be injected into a willing or unconscious
creature (or yourself) as a standard action, as long as the target is
within your reach. An injection can also be loaded into a weapon with
the injection weapon special property as a move action, and you can
deliver the injection with a normal attack with that weapon. When
you attack an ally with an injection loaded into a weapon that has the
injection weapon special property, that ally is considered flat-footed
against your attack.
"

Assuming the weapon already was loaded with his injections, or that he has two injection weapons readied.


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Hopefully this isn't too late for tomorrow's show...

Biohacker Questions

1. Is there a mechanical/balance reason why the Biohacker did not get a class based insight bonus mechanic to any skills? I understand why you might not have wanted to do it for Life/Physical science specifically (because of the reduced skill need for creature id), but I'm not seeing anything the class is getting that warrants them being stuck like soldiers with no innate bonus to any skills.

2. I'm not sure I understand the action economy of the injections class feature. It looks like you can prepare your injections 'generically' in the morning, load them all into your needler pistol (or what have you) using move actions around that time, and then shoot them and decide what they do with a normal standard action attack in combat. But if that's the case, what is the point of the Quick Load feature?

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General Playtest Question

How much does the Starship Combat Sub-System impact your designs for new classes?


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♫ It’s been two weeks since the Twitch stream
Where Rob McCreary
Went and dropped the bomb
Two weeks since Owen Stephens
Feigned surprise, askin’ ‘Is this mike on?’
We’d had 5 days to speculate
Then realized it’s all your fault, we should tell you
Hanging in uncertainty...
It’s been over a week now since the blog dropped

Hold it now, there’s playtest classes
Need to get my glasses
You’ll think that we’re possessed
Some predicted disaster
And charisma casters
Are they the same?
Don’t you know gamers get obsessed?

Hot like starship fuel when we analyze
Really, over analyze
It’s all about what you value
We all love
Vanguard’s entropic hits
We try to match wits
With designers as we test through

Kickin’ the tires on these new hires
Before playtest expires
I like Vanguard, it's the finest of our saviors
But if you like injections,
And buffs infectious,
Biohackers have that special glow
They’re so dangerous,
You'll have to sign a waiver

How can I help if I think the playtest’s really rad
Even though their ship skills are kinda bad
I'm the kind of gal who turns to this with glee
Can't understand what I mean?
Well, you soon will
I have a tendency to wear my mind on my sleeve
And a history of filking concerts

It's been one week since Owen’s duel with spoons
Zo!’s still pouting ‘bout that in the next room
Witchwarpers twistin reality
Dumpin’s us ten feet, smashing knees
It’s been two weeks since our playtest swoon
Starfinder Wednesday can’t come too soon
Only a few hours then we’ll see
Dan Tharp’s wild Q & A safari ♫

Source: Bare Naked Ladies One Week

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Oh. My. Goodness. This is amazing!! <3 <3


pithica42 wrote:


2. I'm not sure I understand the action economy of the injections class feature. It looks like you can prepare your injections 'generically' in the morning, load them all into your needler pistol (or what have you) using move actions around that time, and then shoot them and decide what they do with a normal standard action attack in combat. But if that's the case, what is the point of the Quick Load feature?

I have this same question. If i don't get back in time could you headhunt this question for me hmm? It really changes quick load into a niche thing for when you run out of ammo rather than "absolutely must get this why isn't it a class feature". It also means there's no point dual wielding needlers if you can only fire the injections as a standard action.

Grand Lodge

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I can't. I'll be GMing a Playtest group through SFS 1-00 Claim to Salvation when this show's on. But hopefully our man Dan asks the question anyway.

Hmm

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pithica42 wrote:

Hopefully this isn't too late for tomorrow's show...

2. I'm not sure I understand the action economy of the injections class feature. It looks like you can prepare your injections 'generically' in the morning, load them all into your needler pistol (or what have you) using move actions around that time, and then shoot them and decide what they do with a normal standard action attack in combat. But if that's the case, what is the point of the Quick Load feature?

BigNorseWolf wrote:

If i don't get back in time could you headhunt this question for me hmm?

No worries! This question is on my list.


pithica42 wrote:


2. I'm not sure I understand the action economy of the injections class feature. It looks like you can prepare your injections 'generically' in the morning, load them all into your needler pistol (or what have you) using move actions around that time, and then shoot them and decide what they do with a normal standard action attack in combat. But if that's the case, what is the point of the Quick Load feature?

From the twitch

If you Stab your buddy or the bad guy in front of you with a syringe the injection does whatever you want it to do.

If you load them up into six shooters, you have to pick exactly what it does when you put it in (from the sound of it, right down to 10' of movement enhancement or which debuff you were applying)

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Hey Dan, I didn't realize until watching your show late last night that you are filming the history of Starfinder episode today. Woops. I hope that I can get some questions in before you guys film.

Hmm's Burning Questions

1) How long had you guys been wanting to create an SF game before you finally tipped over the edge? What made you all decide to take the leap and launch the Science Fiction version of Pathfinder? What made you decide to make it its own game with its own rules rather than just a bunch of setting books and player companion books?

2) Distant Worlds was an important pre-setting for Starfinder, naming all the planets in the Pact Worlds system (though it was called the 'Golarian' system then) and giving them cultures and inhabitants. But you've actively shifted the post-Gap narrative all over the system. Some worlds like Castrovel came out very familiar. Others like Apostae have political landscapes that are unrecognizable from their origins. What made you decide which worlds needed radical makeovers?

3) Your influences and inspirations were so important that you devoted an entire section to them in the CRB. Can you name 3 influences that were seminal to something you specifically designed? What did they spark in you?

4) Gnomes are everywhere in your setting, despite not being a core race. Are they the secret masters of the universe?

Okay, I admit it. I'm mainly asking this to see what insane theory Owen makes up on the spot.

5) Can you wish your guests happy holidays from all of us fans at some point during the show? Starfinder has been a great gift in our lives, and I've enjoyed meeting so many 'Starfinder babies' -- people who'd never played PFS and came to SFS specifically because it was a science fiction exploration game in a big wide universe. We want to thank you for the wonderful gift you've given us in a game that brings so many of us together.

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I'll do my best to get these into the discussion, but since we're recording the show, there won't be a typical "Q&A" section.
What I'll do is keep these handy and if it comes up, I'll add these to the conversation.

Hopefully, we can address most of these!


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Starfinder Superscriber

I didn't get to watch this weeks show 'live' but I did catch it late last night.

Thank you Dan for asking my questions from earlier in the thread, and thank you to Owen and Jason for answering them. The second one really cleared some stuff up that was confusing me and the first answer made total sense.

Now I wish I had read/played/played with the Witchwarper so I had decent questions for next week's show...


Here’s another few questions.

Will Owen do some more live games where he is the GM? I’ve only found a few on YouTube with him as GM of a starfinder game and it’s nice to see how a design lead runs a game.

Any chance of getting Starfinder Fan club T-shirt’s?

Was there any thought on the biohacker being able to actually use biochemistry to create life? Something where he creates/summons a being and has a pet/summon like a mechanic/ranger?


Starfinder Superscriber

As I said above, I haven't played a witchwarper yet. I'm playing with one in a playtest run of 1-25, but I haven't seen much of what they can do in action. So take these questions with a hefty grain of salt. However, I have seen similar points made by people that have actually played them, so it would be nice to get an answer regarding it.

Witchwarper Questions.

1. Looking at the class features and what they can actually do, it appears that, like many old-school spellcasters, the witchwarper is "back-loaded". Meaning, it appears to be intentionally 'weak' at low-levels and far stronger at high levels. Was this design choice intentional, and if so what is the justification for it?

2. What was the thought process behind the skill choices vis-a-vis Starship combat? It seems odd that in a universe where starship travel is common and a game where it makes up ~1/6th of a character's potential career that they'd be so limited to participating in it. They're basically stuck as a Captain, and not even a fantastically good one like an Envoy might be.


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ograx wrote:

Here’s another few questions.

Will Owen do some more live games where he is the GM? I’ve only found a few on YouTube with him as GM of a starfinder game and it’s nice to see how a design lead runs a game.

Any chance of getting Starfinder Fan club T-shirt’s?

Was there any thought on the biohacker being able to actually use biochemistry to create life? Something where he creates/summons a being and has a pet/summon like a mechanic/ranger?

Yes, we definitely need Starfinder Wednesday Fan Club T-Shirts! But what image would we use for them?


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Well since it's a fan club T-shirt, I imagine a mashup of various characters would only be appropriate.


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Starfinder Superscriber

Didn't get to watch til today. Thank you again to Dan for asking my questions and to Amanda and Owen for answering them. Hopefully you guys are enjoying your vacation and won't see this for a bit. But, still, thank you.

Grand Lodge

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I’d buy a t-shirt. His show brought me back to paizo


Vanguardish Questions

Not directly related to the vanguard but since they seem to be the combat maneuver class...

Does being moved by a combat maneuver provoke? Reposition and bullrush seem to let you move an opponent and then whack them when you do.

If you are bored some more Biohacker questions popped up

Can you use the conserving fusion on your injections so you don't burn them when you miss?

Can you use the a +2 enhancement bonus to all skill checks" restorative in spaceship combat? The core rules say that you can't use class abilities in combat but the FAQ about class abilities in starship combat seems to reverse that completely.


Well, the basic one concerning Biohackers right now would be: do you fire the injection from your gun (causing no damage at all), or do you actually put the content of the injection inside a dart and then fire it (causing the weapon's regular damage + effect from the injection)?

And concerning melee injection weapons, can the Injection content be placed into them, ie, do they count as "vials" or "flat cartridges", mentioned in weapons such as the Ice Needles or the Injection Gloves?

Most people have assumed you can use Injections just like any regular poison, but strictly reading the text on the Playtest, it seems the injections aren't quite compatible with darts or the mechanisms employed by melee weapons.

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Thank you, Dan, Owen and Rob for a lovely history lesson! I enjoyed your pre-recorded Origins of Starfinder episode (that I only just now got to watch.)

Thanks, and see you next week with Joe Pasini!

Hmm


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Awesome episode last night, guys! My daughter's absolutely thrilled you mentioned her drone-wearing rabbit. She made us rewatch it repeatedly. Haha.

Any idea what next week's episode is?


Starfinder Superscriber

Looking into my Chrystal Ball....

AA3 and/or Attack of the Swarm and/or Beginner Box Questions and/or Dawn of Flame Hype and/or SoS3 hype. That's probably in reverse order of likelihood based on release dates.

Though I'm still in perpetual hope of a Veskarium book announcement.

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Hmm wrote:

4) Gnomes are everywhere in your setting, despite not being a core race. Are they the secret masters of the universe?

Okay, I admit it. I'm mainly asking this to see what insane theory Owen makes up on the spot.

[InsaneTheory]

Gnomes are originally residents of the First World, the prototype universe created by the gods before they made our final reality. As such, they are the ur-humanoids, the tempalte from which everything else is made, from elves (tall gnomes) to shirren (buggy gnomes) to barathu (... weird gnomes).
Thus, gnomes are distributed evenly throughout the galaxy. they are not "native" t the pact Worlds, but to ALL worlds, in greater or lesser measure.
There is no place that doesn't have a connection to gnomes.
Who, understandably, thus tend to have their fingers in a lot of pies.
[/InsaneTheory]

Scarab Sages Starfinder Design Lead

ograx wrote:
Will Owen do some more live games where he is the GM? I’ve only found a few on YouTube with him as GM of a starfinder game and it’s nice to see how a design lead runs a game.

Nothing like that planned at this time, but it's certainly something I'd love to be able to find time and people and expertise to do more often.

Wayfinders

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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Hmm wrote:

4) Gnomes are everywhere in your setting, despite not being a core race. Are they the secret masters of the universe?

Okay, I admit it. I'm mainly asking this to see what insane theory Owen makes up on the spot.

[InsaneTheory]

Gnomes are originally residents of the First World, the prototype universe created by the gods before they made our final reality. As such, they are the ur-humanoids, the tempalte from which everything else is made, from elves (tall gnomes) to shirren (buggy gnomes) to barathu (... weird gnomes).
Thus, gnomes are distributed evenly throughout the galaxy. they are not "native" t the pact Worlds, but to ALL worlds, in greater or lesser measure.
There is no place that doesn't have a connection to gnomes.
Who, understandably, thus tend to have their fingers in a lot of pies.
[/InsaneTheory]

"I knew it!" Charli Poshkettle grins. "That's why I like hanging out in Ollie's Option Bar and making Brethedan Bubble Tea! I'm doing gnomish things!"

I'll happily address all shirren as buggy-gnomes from now on. You have made my day, Owen.

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meloriel wrote:
Awesome episode last night, guys! My daughter's absolutely thrilled you mentioned her drone-wearing rabbit. She made us rewatch it repeatedly. Haha.

Your kids are the best, Meloriel! They're the most creative Starfinders ever, and they've even contributed to our setting by getting into Wayfinder 19!


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Hmm wrote:
meloriel wrote:
Awesome episode last night, guys! My daughter's absolutely thrilled you mentioned her drone-wearing rabbit. She made us rewatch it repeatedly. Haha.

Your kids are the best, Meloriel! They're the most creative Starfinders ever, and they've even contributed to our setting by getting into Wayfinder 19!

Aww, thanks! I'll pass that along to them.

Paizo Employee Developer

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Hmm wrote:
meloriel wrote:
Awesome episode last night, guys! My daughter's absolutely thrilled you mentioned her drone-wearing rabbit. She made us rewatch it repeatedly. Haha.

Your kids are the best, Meloriel! They're the most creative Starfinders ever, and they've even contributed to our setting by getting into Wayfinder 19!

That's exciting! Yet another reason to look forward to PaizoCon next this year!

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--Starfinder Wednesday Update--
January 9th - Chris Sims joins Dan in the Ol' Paizo Studios to talk about the Sun!

We're working on planning out the next month of shows, so stay tuned!


Starfinder Superscriber

Oooooh. Dawn of Flame Hype. My prediction was almost right. I'll be stuck watching a rerun because of class.

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now the official hym of saranrae

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Melisa Norveg wrote:
now the official hym of saranrae

....I lol'd.


If you are taking suggestions about a question I would love to know how they handle the implications of many denizens being able to cast the spell wish. I think it'd be really interesting to know if they have a mechanism in place to handle this, or a social custom making it somewhat taboo.


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Dan Tharp wrote:
Melisa Norveg wrote:
now the official hym of saranrae
....I lol'd.

Sorry but PF>SM

the official hym of saranrae NOW with more mysticism


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Awesome show Dan about the Sun and I liked the Pathfinder one with Sara Marie as well, thanks for giving her my regards as far as shouting out customer service for their stellar job they do. One piece of constructive criticism from someone who sometimes chooses to listen on headphones at work with just audio. You click the pen on the table quite a bit.

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I also enjoyed the show, Dan and Chris. It was fun hearing more about the community of the Sun, which was the single most interesting location in the Pact Worlds for me. Still your show sparked ideas, and I'm now thinking about putting together a song about Asanatown. I'll share it if it comes together.

Meanwhile, tell Chris that I am looking forward to getting more in depth with the sun as the AP unfurls!

What are some of the other upcoming topics?

Hmm

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ograx wrote:
One piece of constructive criticism from someone who sometimes chooses to listen on headphones at work with just audio. You click the pen on the table quite a bit.

I wish this was the first time I've heard this. It is a known issue and the tech team is working on the problem by taking my pens.

(note: i will remove ALL pens from my desk. Promise.) :)

Second, SORRY! I thought I had already posted that the show on the 16th is a Playtest Wrap Up show. It's been planned from the start and in my brain, I added that a long time ago. But, I guess I didn't. Apologies. To be clear, tomorrow's show is a Playtest Wrap Up show with Owen and Rob.

The upcoming schedule is coming together but still sort of spotty.

1/23 - The Shadow Plane with Jason Keeley
1/30 - Joe Pasini talks about.... (TBD!)
2/6 - Chris Sims talks about... (TBD!)
2/13 - Owen K.C. Stephens talks about.... (TBD!)
2/20 - Amanda Hamon Kunz talks about... (TBD!)
2/27 - Robert G. McCreary talks about... (TBD!)

As you can see, I've gotten the Starfinder Team to commit to show dates, but those folks are really busy! I promise to fill this in as I get more info.
pew pew!


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So a few questions for the play test wrap-up:

1. What was the biggest oversight caught by the play test?

2.What is the change that you are most excited to make?

3. What is something you thought was cool but was found to be cumbersome or unpopular during the Play test?
-Beta

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4) What worked out better than anticipated?


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I won't be able to watch live (stupid work/school) but I will catch a rerun. Questions for the Playtest episode...

5. What changes will you be making to the skill selection/bonuses for the playtest classes, especially in regards to Starship Combat?

6. How effective, overall, did the feedback indicate shields were? (My expectation is a lot, but data beats anecdotes.)

7. How close is the general feedback on the classes to what you were expecting going into it?

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8. What other exciting things are you working on for the Character Operations Manual that you can tell us about? It's Owen and Rob, and sometimes they do teases and spoilers.

9. What have you learned from the Playtest process this time? Not about the classes, but about how to run and fast and fun Playtest?

10. Will you include a GM survey next time so that GMs don't feel they have to submit six surveys for each game they do? (I admit that I gave up after one or two surveys per game as GM. I just did not have the energy to fill out one for each character.)


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"The Shadow Plane! Now there's a place with conflict and excitement! I was worried that we would just have shows about those sunny Sarenrae do-gooders for months. Bring me blood duels!" Then the Pact World's most famous host looks thoughtful. "If only the Church of Sarenrae would let me put a film crew in Asanatown, which has some real entertainment possibilities... All those paranoid people, feeling doom and gloom. Stuck in a bubble with no way out, and my crew helping add exciting drama! But so far those sunny snobs have turned me down!"

Second Seekers (Luwazi Elsbo)

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"I don't know if sunblock comes in SPF scientific notation ZO! "


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Great show Dan and team. You know Dan you are making significant progress in your ability to run these shows. It is a learned skill to be able to interview people and keep the show paced and to properly place questions and I feel you are making a steady progression in your ability to do these things. Admittedly Owen seems like a guy that almost interviews himself most of the time. Awesome job!

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ograx wrote:
Great show Dan and team. You know Dan you are making significant progress in your ability to run these shows. It is a learned skill to be able to interview people and keep the show paced and to properly place questions and I feel you are making a steady progression in your ability to do these things. Admittedly Owen seems like a guy that almost interviews himself most of the time. Awesome job!

I confess "getting me to talk" is not normally difficult. "Getting me to stay on topic" is, however, definitely a skill set!

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ograx wrote:
Great show Dan and team. You know Dan you are making significant progress in your ability to run these shows. It is a learned skill to be able to interview people and keep the show paced and to properly place questions and I feel you are making a steady progression in your ability to do these things. Admittedly Owen seems like a guy that almost interviews himself most of the time. Awesome job!

Thanks so much! This is the first time I've ever had to run a show, direct camera, interview, and chat all at the same time.

It's been a giant learning experience for me.
Glad you can see some improvements in my work!!

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