Bloodrager equipment question


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First, this ability of a bloodrager:

"Greater Bloodrage: In addition, upon entering a bloodrage, the bloodrager can apply the effects a bloodrager spell he knows of 2nd level or lower to himself."

A Ring of Spell Knowledge:

"Thereafter, the arcane spellcaster may cast the spell as though she knew the spell and it appeared on her class’ spell list."

I assume that, while you can cast as though it appears on the list, it wouldn't count on being on the list for Greater Bloodrage, correct?

It would be real nice to have a Magus fill the ring with Blade Tutor's Spirit for my Power-Attacking bloodrager, if this does work.


Yup, it works fine.

The wording: "as though she knew the spell and it appeared on her class’ spell list" means that the spell in question works with your class abilitues in the same way that any spell on your class' spell list.

For example, a magus can only use spell-combat with magus spells, so even if they know a wizard spell they can't use it with spell-combat.

Another good example would be Blood Casting. While Bloodraging you can only cast Bloodrager spells. This ring allows you to cast the spell within the ring as if it were a Bloodrager spell, which means you can cast it during your Bloodrage.

Basically you treat it like any other Bloodrager spell your character knows.


Oh, and yes it'll be a second level spell for you if you can find a magus to cast it, or a third level spell for you if anyone else casts it.


I could see a GM objecting in that (1) the ring doesn't add a spell to your spell list but rather lets you cast the spell as though it were on your spell list; and (2) greater bloodrage doesn't cast the spell but rather applies its effects to the bloodrager.

Admittedly, it's a bit pedantic.

Blood casting would work fine, as that involves actually casting a "bloodrager" spell.


blahpers wrote:
Admittedly, it's a bit pedantic.

Yes it is =P


blahpers wrote:
Admittedly, it's a bit pedantic.

I would not say pedantic, I would say accurate. The ring puts it on your list for the purposes of casting it, but Greater Bloodrage does not involve casting the spell so that clause does not kick in.

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also the ability doesn't check YOUR spell list which might be an altered list (as from the ring) rather the bloodrager class spell list("a bloodrager spell".
but i think most gm's wouldn't be too much against this.

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