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DeathQuaker wrote:

Subluxated ribs and vertebrae are quite the nuisance in particular.

For what it's worth, I've had great luck with chiropractors. And by "luck" I mean "I'm not sure I would be able to walk or run well or work without pain without having had their intervention." Strongly recommend them (although some are too hippy dippy to bear; but there are more where those came from), especially as a consult before considering surgery, and a lot of them either take insurance and/or offer fair rates to those whose insurance doesn't cover chiropractic.

Yep, I see a chiropractor and the office takes my insurance.


Serghar Cromwell wrote:
I hate that it's possible to bite the inside of my own mouth.

I did that this week.


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DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Serghar Cromwell wrote:
I hate that it's possible to bite the inside of my own mouth.
I did that this week.

Why did you bite the inside of his mouth?


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It's...complicated.


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That requires a level of...well...either talent or physical deformity...that I was unaware you possessed.

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Serghar Cromwell wrote:
I hate that it's possible to bite the inside of my own mouth.

Yes! More bad design, building our cheeks (and tongues) out of delicious meat! Optimally, exactly none of me would be edible.


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I share your frustration with the human body. Here's another: Eyelashes are supposed to keep small particles out of our eyes, but they often fall out and land directly in our eyes.


We are imperfect creatures. Except for actress Anne Hathaway.


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Other annoying bodily imperfections... Skin that won't allow needles easily at the doctor's office and facial skin that erupts into bleeding cuts at the touch of a razor -- could we just get that averaged out, please?

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I have some choice words for my ovaries.

I also have choice words for my new phone's autocorrect, which wanted to make that "o varied."


DungeonmasterCal wrote:
We are imperfect creatures. Except for actress Anne Hathaway.

Anne Hathaway /shudders...

Her mouth is way to big for her head!


YOU SHUT YOUR POPCORN HOLE RIGHT NOW, MISTER! That's the future Mrs. DMC!


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Here's something that isn't weird, but still annoying. When someone asks you to do a chore, then comes up and tells you that you're doing it wrong. My dad used to do that when I was washing dishes all the time. It drove me nuts.

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Heather 540 wrote:
Here's something that isn't weird, but still annoying. When someone asks you to do a chore, then comes up and tells you that you're doing it wrong. My dad used to do that when I was washing dishes all the time. It drove me nuts.

Oh yes.

What horks me off is the notion that the way that someone does something is 'the one right way' to do it. 'Why did you do it *that* way?' 'Why would I not?' 'You're supposed to do it X way!' 'Sorry, I didn't see that in the manual.' '*Everybody* knows that!' 'Apparently, not.'

As long as it gets done (and I don't have to re-do it!).

Carry all the bags at once. Read the last page first. Back into the space, instead of backing out of it later. Chew *two* pieces of gum *at the same time.* Measure once, cut once, curse because it doesn't fit, cut again. Eat your pizza with a fork, you absolute maniac. It's all good. :)

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Similarly when you are strongarmed into having an opinion only to have the person demanding the opinion then immediately disagree with you and try to make you feel stupid for having the opinion.

Example: I went on a camping trip with a friend; I had never gone camping before and had no idea what to expect; she was on the other hand quite experienced. I said clearly to her "I will help however I can and will do as you instruct, but I don't know anything about this so don't look to me for commentary."

Cue various conversations like this:
Her: Do you think we should set up the tent like this or this?
Me: I really don't know.
Her: But I want to know what you think.
Me: I told you I have no idea about this, I seriously have no opinion.
Her: But no really, what do you think?
[Repeat several more times, including me trying to unsuccessfully walk away, before I break]
Me: Fine. I think it should go that way. [this is an utterly randomly chosen opinion.]
Her: Oh I dont think that'll work at all because of xyz, it'll have to be the other way, don't you think? Yeah, the other way won't work AT ALL.

She did this entire f@++ing week. Eventually I stopped letting her bait me and called her out on it (something I have also since gotten better at doing sooner), but I still only didn't kill her thanks to Divine Intervention. It was like she was incapable of coming to her own decision unless she had someone to argue with about it. I think in her head she was being collaborative, but part of real collaboration is respecting boundaries and taking "no" and "I don't know" for answers!


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Set wrote:
Eat your pizza with a fork, you absolute maniac. It's all good. :)

I don't like touching moist or greasy food with my hands. I've used a fork as long as I can remember...lol. I do the same with burgers, fries, and several other foods that leave a substance on my fingers. It's a feature, not a quirk.


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Something weird that annoys me? Allergies.


I had a handful of extraneous molars cut out of my jaws recently, and haven't been much for . . . well, much for much of anything, lately. It's been a joy.

I'm back, and, with the benefit of hindsight, it seems I owe some some apologies. My words weren't meant to incite or offend, I'm just lousy at peopleing, at knowing in advance what will or won't offend. Any judgementalness, any holier-than-thouness or whatnot that came across in my words was an unintended consequence of perhaps my chief character flaw - not my tendency to barf out words as they pass through my mind, but that I blithely assume that people want to hear my stream of consciousness as I would like to hear theirs'. For that I apologize. I'm aware that the things I've said and will say come across as stupid or insane to many. (I say them anyway, partly to see if by sheer chance I'll run across someone who agrees, and partly to disseminate information I've found useful.) By way of consolation, I feel the same way about what much or many find sensible or self-evident.

It seems that people have moved on to other topics, so I'll keep my reciprocal responses brief. Don't feel obligated to respond, if you don't want to, or continue by way of PMs or a new thread? I'm assuming that no one wants to, so I'll leave finding a way to to anyone who does. But it's been made clear that this isn't the thread for it.

Vanykrye wrote:
I'm curious how your investments are going to matter in your collapsed economy scenario. Money is only useful when there's a societal institution, I.E. government, backing that currency. I mean...how many investments paid off in 1929?

There are degrees to which the economy can collapse. At the Great Depression's very height, the unemployment rate was 25% - terrifying, when way more than twenty five percent of people live paycheck to paycheck, but industry went on. As long as humans persist, it always will, in some fashion. Seeing as a disaster at least on par with the Great Depression is on it's merry way, and the question at this point in time isn't whether it can be stopped but the degree to which it can be mitigated, it seems sensible to me to at least prepare for the best case scenario.

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I also question how a single mother is supposed to support 5 children and be able to quit her job while recovering from a broken back within 12-13 years. You wrote that she broke her back when you were 5-6 years old, but that she should have been able to quit working before you were an adult. Only way that would work is if she had no kids or other responsibilities beyond herself at all.

What motive would I have to lie about my own life? If it strikes you as implausible, I guess that just means my family is more badass than you're used to. This is a statement of fact - little offense was taken and no offense is meant.

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Living on $5k a year can be done, but I dare you to try it in London, Tokyo, New York, Paris, Melbourne, or any other major world city.

Does seven thousand in San Fransisco count? It's an old post, but it's stuck with me since my formative years.

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This is all the worse to me because you don't have to live that way when you're simply refusing to use your available resources of three times that income. Not that $15k/year is a walk in the park either, but it's a lot easier than $5k/year. No, you're not saving anything anymore, but you're in less imminent danger of existence failure.

I'm not in any imminent risk of existence failure.

Fumarole wrote:
Since it seems like this was directed at me,

I'm sorry about that. It was directed more at society in general, but it used words that you said and in hindsight I see that that would have made me feel personally attacked, in your shoes.

Fumarole wrote:
Also, it seems a bit strange to criticize others for paying for Netflix or video games on a forum dedicated to tabletop roleplaying games. These are all luxuries. I hope you're not advocating pirating any of these things.

I certainly wouldn't advocate breaking any laws, as that's against the rules of this forum. I wouldn't even advocate walking over to the nearest river or canal and filling your backpack with cattails, despite that they do a stellar job of filtering out pollutants and are safe to eat even in high population density areas. Because foraging is against the law in most parts of the US. But I also won't advocate not breaking the law, because I dislike giving people bad advice.

In my view, where unenforceable laws count for less than earnest advice, buying from someone what you could get free elsewhere is charity. I'm not against charity, I live frugally in large part so that I can give more to charity (and this because I see no significant difference between killing and letting die, and the idea of buying luxuries I don't need rather than donating to the Against Malaria Foundation weighs too heavily on my mind to contemplate). And when it comes to picking a charity to donate to, well, I rate musicians and gamemakers the same as I rate animal shelters - not worth a person's life. I only have so much money, so I'll try and do as much good as I can with it.

Mostly, though, I use the SRD.

TOZ wrote:
Also, it's not immoral to enjoy things now instead of hoarding for later. Being frugal in your youth in order to be luxurious in your later years deprives you of enjoying your best health.

We disagree on several counts, but most of them are the sort of disagreements that can never be resolved, so there's no real point in trying to argue them.

As a simple matter of clearing up a miscommunication, I don't plain on being luxurious until humanity has achieved a post-scarcity utopian society where robots service our every need, if that ever happens. I try not to hold everyone to that standard, though, because I've an inkling that if one's system of morality peg more than ninety percent of people as Evil, there's probably something more going on. I'm sure future humans will find me as deplorable as I find the Spanish Inquisition or Jane off the street, and that's a good thing. It means humanity's improving.

Regardless of whether instant gratification is immoral, it's certainly short sighted. In youth that we have the ability to go without, should the need arise, the fortitude to pull all nighters, the ability to work hard without injuring ourselves. Logically, it's in youth that we should do as much that we anticipate needing to that we can.

Lady Ladile wrote:
Certainly save up, maybe make some investments, consider your non-essential purchases...but if you're doing all of that and it's not going to put you in danger of being unable to pay your bills and put food on the table, then why not live a little?

There's nothing wrong with living a little. I try to live as much as I can, without compromising other values. But as Mr. Money Mustache says, "at almost every moment in time, there is always something you could be doing that costs absolutely nothing, but which also makes you absolutely happy."

I watched Avengers: Endgame on opening night. I'm not a frequent visitor of movie theaters, but someone else bought the ticket. And it was fun. Was it more fun than playing Pathfinder with a couple of friends, or watching Avengers: Endgame somewhat later at home where I could talk during the movie, pause the movie to talk with a friend? No. Living a fulfilling life isn't at odds with not spending more than circumstances force one to!

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Just apologizing again for giving people offense. I didn't mean to give anyone the impression that I thought I was somehow better than them [jocular aside]though I do[/jocular aside], we're all biological robots together, stumbling through life and executing our directives as best we can.

/derail


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Heather 540 wrote:
Here's something that isn't weird, but still annoying. When someone asks you to do a chore, then comes up and tells you that you're doing it wrong. My dad used to do that when I was washing dishes all the time. It drove me nuts.

As I noted some ways back in this thread...

My sister makes fires in the woodstove Wrong (she does just fine, the fire typically gets going, and there is literally no reason I should care if she's lighting the fire so I don't have to).

It drives me insane, and it drives me insane that it drives me insane.


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Icyshadow wrote:
Something weird that annoys me? Allergies.

Oh, gods yes do allergies annoy me also. I'm sneezing right now in fact. Earlier this year I started getting weekly shots and while they help, they do not remove symptoms entirely. It doesn't help that at one of my games, the hosts own a cat that gets onto their furniture, which of course gets the cat hair onto me.


I'm developing a serious mold problem in my house but it doesn't seem to be affecting me. My son, however, is miserable most of the time. Gonna have to have the landlord come and take a look at it.


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Heather 540 wrote:
Here's something that isn't weird, but still annoying. When someone asks you to do a chore, then comes up and tells you that you're doing it wrong. My dad used to do that when I was washing dishes all the time. It drove me nuts.

Or when you ask someone (politely, nicely) to do something reasonable and when they do it, they deliberately half-ass it/screw it up so you won't ask them again. Just tell me No up front, especially if I'm just going to have to spend time anyway to do it right/fix it.

If passive-aggressiveness was a power source, my parents' house would generate enough renewable energy to power the whole damn street.

And when both parents do it, it's damn hard for the kids to deprogram themselves/mentally route around years of learned passive-aggressive behavioral mechanisms.


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People that quote movies but butcher the lines.


Fumarole wrote:
People that quote movies but butcher the lines.

I am slightly guilty of this. To a degree.


That's me to a T. I butcher every line I try to quote. Unless it's that one line from "Cool Hand Luke".


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The popular/marketing usage of the term "organic" drives me nuts. There is a specific,technical meaning that I mean when I say organic, the rest of the world should do the same!


Java Man wrote:
The popular/marketing usage of the term "organic" drives me nuts. There is a specific,technical meaning that I mean when I say organic, the rest of the world should do the same!

My assumption is that you're talking in chemistry terms.


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Java Man wrote:
The popular/marketing usage of the term "organic" drives me nuts. There is a specific,technical meaning that I mean when I say organic, the rest of the world should do the same!

How about people that think organic means pesticide-free. If they only knew.


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Organic comes from ancient Alderaanian, meaning "that which was created by the Organa family."

This has been Drunk Pugwampi History.


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I love my country, despite all its warts. But I'm pretty tired of all the jingoistic rhetoric thrown at me from various media and social media outlets.


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I love my country, despite all its warts. But I'm pretty tired of all the jingoistic rhetoric thrown at me from various media and social media outlets.

Yeah, the assumption that love of country has to be a chest-thumping display you actively and loudly demonstrate at all times, rather than just something like your relationship with your family could be (you don't choose it, you try to help everyone in it make it better, but you also end up just forgiving some crap you wouldn't take from anyone else) really sticks in my craw.

Having a bunch of flags hanging off of your car doesn't mean you love this place any more than I. Nor does my ability to recognize areas we suck at mean I somehow despise this place.

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Java Man wrote:
The popular/marketing usage of the term "organic" drives me nuts.

"Oh good. 'Cause I sure didn't want to buy the *inorganic* eggs..."

Also misuse of the word 'literally.' Grr.


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Whichever otyugh-brained goblin who thought carpeting an entire bathroom was a good idea.


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The fact that 99% of people have no idea what Chemical Engineering is in any way shape or form. Most people at least have a basic knowledge of what Mechanical, Civil and Electrical Engineers do but the best i can usually hope for is for people to not get irrationally angry at the word chemical (they are everything people; Everything). Also people who seperate things into 'elements and chemicals', elements are chemicals people, the word you're looking for is compound.

Also I'm usually pretty good with the different dialects of english but the way most of the world says graph physically pains me.

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Some Kind of Chymist wrote:

The fact that 99% of people have no idea what Chemical Engineering is in any way shape or form. Most people at least have a basic knowledge of what Mechanical, Civil and Electrical Engineers do but the best i can usually hope for is for people to not get irrationally angry at the word chemical (they are everything people; Everything). Also people who separate things into 'elements and chemicals', elements are chemicals people, the word you're looking for is compound.

Similar to this, the assumption that 'synthetic' automatically means 'bad for you' and that 'natural' automatically means 'good for you.'

No. Uranium is 100% natural, and super-bad for you. Ditto brown recluse venom, or ebola, or getting hit by lightning, or getting kicked in the head by an unshod horse. Mother nature gives zero craps about whether or not something is good for you, and, indeed, often comes up with stuff that is *specifically made to be bad for you* (like the aforementioned spider venom, which was not created to lower your bad cholesterol or be part of your healthy breakfast, so much as to partially digest and kill whatever the spider bit to make it part of the spider's healthy breakfast...).

It annoys me when this sort of black and white thinking occurs, that something is always bad 'because it's unnatural' or something is always good 'because it's natural / organic.'

It's eye-rolling and sort of funny 'bad logic is bad' when it applies in games, but it flat out kills people when this sort of 'logic' is applied to the real world, where people make important decisions based on fuzzy reasoning or prejudices against chemical preservatives or synthetic vaccines or to rationalize homophobia or whatever.


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If one more person condescendingly mansplains basic RPG concepts (like “Remember, as GM, you control the NPCs”) I’m going to flip every table in the g&%**&n furniture warehouse.

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Not only is that mansplaining that's also a lie.


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Even if it were 100% true, it's not remotely helpful. Which reminds me of another thing that sets my flippin muscles twitchin... when I post a question on the advice forums and someone responds by saying "I've never had that problem."

HOW IS THAT HELPFUL? HRRRGH!

Oh great. Now my pants are cut-offs. And purple for some reason.


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Rysky wrote:
Not only is that mansplaining that's also a lie.

At the risk of triggering people...

What do you mean by this?


Tableflip McRagequit wrote:

Even if it were 100% true, it's not remotely helpful. Which reminds me of another thing that sets my flippin muscles twitchin... when I post a question on the advice forums and someone responds by saying "I've never had that problem."

HOW IS THAT HELPFUL? HRRRGH!

Oh great. Now my pants are cut-offs. And purple for some reason.

If they ONLY say "I've never had that problem" and leave it there, then I'm flippin' tables in solidarity. But if they say something like "I've never personally ran into this, but here's my take..." then there's at least an attempt at being helpful.


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Vanykrye wrote:
Tableflip McRagequit wrote:

Even if it were 100% true, it's not remotely helpful. Which reminds me of another thing that sets my flippin muscles twitchin... when I post a question on the advice forums and someone responds by saying "I've never had that problem."

HOW IS THAT HELPFUL? HRRRGH!

Oh great. Now my pants are cut-offs. And purple for some reason.

If they ONLY say "I've never had that problem" and leave it there, then I'm flippin' tables in solidarity. But if they say something like "I've never personally ran into this, but here's my take..." then there's at least an attempt at being helpful.

True. But all the variants on "your problem isn't a problem because I don't have it, there, I helped" bring out my furniture-hating alter ego. It's like if there were a thread on dog-training and someone posted "Well, I only ever have cats. That will solve your problem with your dog chewing your shoes."

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Fumarole wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Not only is that mansplaining that's also a lie.

At the risk of triggering people...

What do you mean by this?

It's mansplaining due to the talking down nature.

It's a lie because GMs don't control NPCs, we just put them in the game and they go do their own thing.


Whoa.


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*slinks away from Tableflip guiltily*


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quibblemuch wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Tableflip McRagequit wrote:

Even if it were 100% true, it's not remotely helpful. Which reminds me of another thing that sets my flippin muscles twitchin... when I post a question on the advice forums and someone responds by saying "I've never had that problem."

HOW IS THAT HELPFUL? HRRRGH!

Oh great. Now my pants are cut-offs. And purple for some reason.

If they ONLY say "I've never had that problem" and leave it there, then I'm flippin' tables in solidarity. But if they say something like "I've never personally ran into this, but here's my take..." then there's at least an attempt at being helpful.
True. But all the variants on "your problem isn't a problem because I don't have it, there, I helped" bring out my furniture-hating alter ego. It's like if there were a thread on dog-training and someone posted "Well, I only ever have cats. That will solve your problem with your dog chewing your shoes."

Completely agreed. I was making the mistake of assuming an actual attempt at being helpful and empathetic, as opposed to my usual state of being...;)


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Rysky wrote:
It's a lie because GMs don't control NPCs, we just put them in the game and they go do their own thing.

That's a stance that I find very puzzling, but I'll just leave it at that.


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Fumarole wrote:
Rysky wrote:
It's a lie because GMs don't control NPCs, we just put them in the game and they go do their own thing.
That's a stance that I find very puzzling, but I'll just leave it at that.

They react to the world around them just as the PCs are supposed to.

It's the same idea as how an author views their characters as having lives of their own and outside of the author's control. Same idea as actors portraying characters - listen to an actor talk about a character they play and how it's like they're talking about a completely separate entity.


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Agreed, but the phrase "the GM controls the NPCs" is not a lie.


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

If passive-aggressiveness was a power source, my parents' house would generate enough renewable energy to power the whole damn street.

And when both parents do it, it's damn hard for the kids to deprogram themselves/mentally route around years of learned passive-aggressive behavioral mechanisms.

For what it's worth (and speaking as a parent), there's a decent chance they picked it up from their own parents.

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