A Paladin and Antipaladin meet each other on the street: what happens?


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Do they immediately engage in combat? Glare at each other as they pass? Hurl insults and crude gestures? Have a drink and shoot the breeze with each other about how hard it is being being a Divine Champion?


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does the detect evil/good ability act as a permanent sense, or do you have to take actions and concentrate on it?

Odds are they wouldn't even know each other for what they are, unless other factors come into play.

If they know each other, and it's in the streets, glares are the most likely option, violence on the street is NOT something that is desirable, even if the antipaladin refrains from it only to avoid getting the authorities on his back.

Socialisation seems unlikely, unless it's required for political reasons.


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It really depends on the setting the gm is using for the campaign.


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Detect Evil/Good requires actions, so no auto-battle.

Having said that, the Antipaladin's aura of cowardice would cancel the Paladin's aura of courage, so if they pass within 10 feet of each other they'd sense something* (assuming they're both 3rd level or higher).

Also i assume most paladins display their heraldry fairly well, so the Antipaladin probably has a good idea of who the Paladin is. The Antipaladin probably knows when to put away the bleeding skull, so may not display as obviously.

Short answer - probably nothing happens.

*assuming you'd sense something. I don't actually know if you'd sense something unless you're required to roll a will save vs fear ...?


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-"you'r here..haven't seen you since the last time we fought"
-" i know, been ages. How's Mom?"
-" Still pissed neither of us took up Dad's gig as a professional Druid.."


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Obviously there's a matter/antimatter reaction. All of their mass is explosively converted into energy.


Andostre wrote:
Obviously there's a matter/antimatter reaction. All of their mass is explosively converted into energy.

:lol:


Anti-paladins don't have to reveal that they are anti-paladins (unless they're detected, and that takes about 18 seconds, which means even a paladin can't have a plan to scan everyone they meet).

Andostre wrote:
Obviously there's a matter/antimatter reaction. All of their mass is explosively converted into energy.

Nodwick did that joke :)


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"Dance off bro!"


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Good vs Evil: Electric Boogaloo


If there was a fight a paladin would never throw down at the drop of a hat. Hes there to promote order and good, so would likely wait until theres some distance from the nearby citizens before even attempting to confront the anti paladin. Also, he would likely try to find evidence to prove such a person OS an anti paladin, so that he could be locked away or hanged.

You know... promoting the laws of the land for the good of the people.


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At random intervals, the overall mass of divinity spawns a paladin and an anti-paladin simultaneously. This reduces the overall mass of divinity by an infinitesimal amount. Given enough time, this will cause all divinity to evaporate from a setting.

This is called "Greyhawking Radiation"


Bravo, sir. Bravo.


Depends on the city. In a developed city I doubt it's legal to just attack someone even if they are evil, so the paladin would probably get in trouble if he hit first. In a remote "old west" type town they would probably look the other way.


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What I want to know is what happens if a Dragon eats both a Paladin and an Antipaladin at the same time. Will this result in a massive explosion, or will the Paladin's Positive Energy and the Antipaladin's Negative Energy simply cancel out, leaving the Dragon still hungry?


UnArcaneElection wrote:

What I want to know is what happens if a Dragon eats both a Paladin and an Antipaladin at the same time. Will this result in a massive explosion, or will the Paladin's Positive Energy and the Antipaladin's Negative Energy simply cancel out, leaving the Dragon still hungry?

Matter and anti-matter don't just cancel each other out, you get gamma ray particles, so at the very least there will be radiation damage, if not a dramatic explosion :)


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UnArcaneElection wrote:

What I want to know is what happens if a Dragon eats both a Paladin and an Antipaladin at the same time. Will this result in a massive explosion, or will the Paladin's Positive Energy and the Antipaladin's Negative Energy simply cancel out, leaving the Dragon still hungry?

What kind of self-respecting dragon eats paladins? They taste Lawful.


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When the paladin and anti-paladin meet, they react to form water and a salt. The paladin provides the cation, the anti-paladin the anion. Depending on the specific archetypes, the salt may or may not settle out.


I still like the massive explosion idea best.


UnArcaneElection wrote:
What I want to know is what happens if a Dragon eats both a Paladin and an Antipaladin at the same time. Will this result in a massive explosion, or will the Paladin's Positive Energy and the Antipaladin's Negative Energy simply cancel out, leaving the Dragon still hungry?

The dragon just gets heartburn.

/cevah


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Leedwashere wrote:

At random intervals, the overall mass of divinity spawns a paladin and an anti-paladin simultaneously. This reduces the overall mass of divinity by an infinitesimal amount. Given enough time, this will cause all divinity to evaporate from a setting.

This is called "Greyhawking Radiation"

Note: This only occurs if the paladin/antipaladin spawn occurs at the divinity's moral event horizon.


Depends on archetype.
Anti-paladin tyrant might actually be friend to a paladin; better to manipulate him to his ends.
A paladin probably would never know if an anti-paladin was near because what anti-paladin travels through any city that they or their master doesn't control without taking steps to hide their alignment?


Archmic wrote:

Depends on archetype.

Anti-paladin tyrant might actually be friend to a paladin; better to manipulate him to his ends.
A paladin probably would never know if an anti-paladin was near because what anti-paladin travels through any city that they or their master doesn't control without taking steps to hide their alignment?

Ones that go places were being evil isn't illegal?

Liberty's Edge

Kimera757 wrote:
UnArcaneElection wrote:

What I want to know is what happens if a Dragon eats both a Paladin and an Antipaladin at the same time. Will this result in a massive explosion, or will the Paladin's Positive Energy and the Antipaladin's Negative Energy simply cancel out, leaving the Dragon still hungry?

Matter and anti-matter don't just cancel each other out, you get gamma ray particles, so at the very least there will be radiation damage, if not a dramatic explosion :)

Oooo....

A radioactive dragon?


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Theconiel wrote:
Kimera757 wrote:
UnArcaneElection wrote:

What I want to know is what happens if a Dragon eats both a Paladin and an Antipaladin at the same time. Will this result in a massive explosion, or will the Paladin's Positive Energy and the Antipaladin's Negative Energy simply cancel out, leaving the Dragon still hungry?

Matter and anti-matter don't just cancel each other out, you get gamma ray particles, so at the very least there will be radiation damage, if not a dramatic explosion :)

Oooo....

A radioactive dragon?

No...a huge green angry dragon :)


I imagine something like this.


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"Morning, Ralph." ... "Morning, Sam."


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AntiPal: "I don't want to bother, and you don't want the needless collateral damage. Im hear to do something that doesn't involve laying waste to this entire town, so keep it in its sheath and back off, Holy-two-shoes."

Pal: "Given who/what you are... How can I know that for sure?"

AntiPal: "Look at it this way. If it did, you'd already be walking through blood-soaked rubble."

Pal: "Fair enough, but just know this.. Me and mine are here, *don't* let me catch you changing your mind about your intentions."

AntiPal: "Mmm.. Either go polish your platemail, pretty boy, or join me for a drink. Just... stop talking."

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