I'd add Warlord from D&D 4e. Awesome martial buffer/healer!Warlords have probably one of my favourite Power names ever: Rub Some Dirt on It. It’s a utility power that lets your ally spend a healing surge. You’re motivating them to get back into the fight like a drill sergeant, it’s so funny.I love some of the examples of Warlords I used to see on the WotC forums; The Hulk is apparently a Warlord, because he shouted Iron Man awake in The Avengers, and Sarah Connor is a Warlord, because she gets Kyle Reece "Back on your feet, soldier!".
In the end, I think even Samwise Gamgee wound up being a Warlord.
Seems like an effect that would be better represented by a skill and set of boosting feats. Like an in-combat charisma skill based around buffing rather than debuffing, like intimidate.
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Yeah, and/or some archetype or something, you can opt into, it's the nonmagical healing that can cause problems for some.
I hope people can adapt to that, because non-magical healing is a pretty rich design space. We're already accepting that HP damage doesn't necessarily mean bloody, gaping wounds, it shouldn't be that hard to say "If HP is luck/stamina/exhaustion/training as well as meat points, why can't we expand healing from strictly wound closing?"
-Bunny girl blows on your dice and give you a wink-
Your luck has been recharged healing you 3d8+chr HP!
Sure, why not?
Similar to Razata, I think most of the choices have mechanically not been distinct enough to warrant translation to a new class in Pathfinder Second Edition. Thematically, perhaps, but mechanically most have been nearly identical. I am going to talk about how other classes can or likely will be accomplished by the 11 base classes before I talk about my choice.
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While I agree which much of what Segovax said, I feel compelled to make a few strong objections.
1) Sorcerers picking between spellcasting traditions does not invalidate having other spontaneous spellcasters of that tradition. Sorcerers have a (very cool) theming of gaining magical power from their bloodline. While I'd argue that the current version of sorcerers could put more emphasis and mechanical focus on this aspect, having this aspect clashes with many of the ideas behind classes other spontaneous classes such as the Oracle.
I'd argue that there is design space for a prepared and spontaneous caster for each of the four traditions, as well as a "switch" prepared and spontaneous caster who can select from different traditions. With sorcerer occupying the switch spontaneous caster niche, that would leave the 5 following spellcasting niches which can be filled; Arcane spontaneous, Divine spontaneous, Occult prepared, Primal spontaneous, and Switch prepared.
2) Oracles were too popular a class to just drop in 2E. While you can argue that certain aspects of their class could have been better written (many curses not seeing play), the underlying flavor of the class is too good to not see some type of return in PF2. Plus, they can nicely fill the niche of divine spontaneous caster in a way sorcerers can't (drawing external power/drawbacks rather than being something internal).
3) Shaman, while I agree that they would need significant mechanical changes (such as dropping hexes / being a witch hybrid), would probably be my top pick for a primal spontaneous caster when it comes to theming. Spirit animals are cool and really fit into the theme of a primal caster while being distinct enough to not overlap with the Druid. If they focused on spirits / spirit animals and maybe took some version of the old Hunter's Animal Focus, I could see them turn into a very interesting class in PF2.
4) Witches are way more than a Wizard with Hexes. Patrons alone are (in my opinion) one of the coolest and most thematic class features from PF1 which I desperately hope to see expanded in PF2. They also serve as the reason I think the Witch class would be best represented as a "switch" prepared caster, as it would allow for witches who gained their power from fey / a connection to nature (primal), making a pact with a literal devil/demon (divine), or from some strange unknowable force (occult). Additionally, Hexes are also an incredibly unique feature that don't really fit the Wizard class well (who should be focused more on their arcane school).
Antipaladin is really just an evil Paladin, and I don't think any class should exist on the premise of "basically class but minor difference". Instead I would like to just see the Paladin remove it's alignment restriction and be written more as a champion empowered by her deity. Maybe even have a few more elements from the Sentinel and Evangalist prestige classes worked in to the Paladin.
And to end this post on a more positive note, I enthusiastically agree with this. We did not have 20+ Cleric and Inquisitor classes to represent every core deity's worshippers. We did not have 9 Wizard classes to represent each arcane school specialization (okay, we did have Summoner, but they should be rolled into Conjuration specialists). And we absolutely had no need for 45+ Sorcerer classes to represent each and every bloodline. Considering all of these would rightly be seen as ridiculous notions, why is the same reasoning acceptable for Paladins/Antipaladins/other alignment Paladins? Make the class flexible enough to cover multiple concepts (like every other class) and remove their alignment restrictions (like every other class that had them in PF1).