Watchmen gets full series order at HBO.


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Nothing Ever Ends.

Very interested in this, big fan of the graphic novel and Directors Cut of the movie. A full series can have some better character development.


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It's a sequel, set 30 years after the graphic novel (and definitely the graphic novel, they're ignoring the Snyder movie from what I can tell). That's interesting but I feel a bit of a head-scratcher. Watchmen's biggest sell was its characters, but with the characters dead, MIA (Dr. Manhattan we can assume will show up at some point, but presumably will still be MIA at the start) or very old, it'll be hard to get them into the story. The focus will be on new characters.

I think I'd rather they do a fresh adaptation - the extra time would help - or a closer-in sequel which could use the surviving characters and do something interesting with them.

I also find Lindelof's, "I really respect Alan Moore's artistic integrity and his writing skills and his desire for people not to cash in on his work, but HBO offered me a lot of money so screw that," rationalisations to be a bit iffy.


I will just wait until some other people tell me I should watch it.

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At the end of the graphic novel

Spoiler:
Only Dr. Manhattan and Blake are dead, out of the main characters. Would'nt surprise me if Don Johnson was playing Nite Owl and Irons Ozzy. They'd be the right ages for it.


I think your spoiler got one of the names wrong.

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Vidmaster7 wrote:
I think your spoiler got one of the names wrong.

I know, I can't spell.


CapeCodRPGer wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
I think your spoiler got one of the names wrong.
I know, I can't spell.

spoiler:
I meant you put Dr. Manhattan instead of Rorschach as someone who died.
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HBO promo for shows this year, has first Watchmen footage.

Not much but it's something.

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Vidmaster7 wrote:
CapeCodRPGer wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
I think your spoiler got one of the names wrong.
I know, I can't spell.
** spoiler omitted **

You are right, my bad.

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First Official teaser. Tick Tock

Looks interesting.

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CapeCodRPGer wrote:
First Official teaser. Tick Tock

Tick Tock. Tick Tock.

I feel like it’s the Hail Hydra of the series.


Well if HYDRA were more like the Authority...I'd guess.

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Comic Con Trailer.

Looks good, and it looks like I guessed right.

Spoiler:
Don Johnson is playing Nite Owl.

At 2:24 looks like the drawing of

Spoiler:
The creature that Veidt telported into Manhattan in the comic. So looks like this is a sequel to the comic, not the movie.


Which might be a good thing, Cape.


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Don Johnson is playing Chief Judd Crawford, the chief of police in Tulsa. He could be a retired Nite Owl, but it feels like becoming police chief would mean extensive background checks which would expose his true nature.

Jean Smart is almost certainly playing Laurie, having changed her surname to Blake. I'm going to guess in her case she was recruited by the FBI specifically because of her skillset and past.

Spoiler:
They've also confirmed - as the trailer does - that Dr. Manhattan does play a role.

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New Trailer.

October 20 premiere date.


I'm still wondering who these 7th Calvary guys are...


Thomas Seitz wrote:
I'm still wondering who these 7th Calvary guys are...

"...a largely black police force is terrorized by Rorschach mask-wearing white supremacists known as the Seventh Cavalry."


So I guess this is what happens when Helter Skelter meets comic books huh?


all hopes: Watchmen now Doomsday clock later....


Vid,

I'm not pinning any hopes for Doomsday Clock since they've yet to finish the series...


I have my dreams.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Vid,

I'm not pinning any hopes for Doomsday Clock since they've yet to finish the series...

[gasping for breath]Must make...one...last...issue...[/gasping]


Vid,

I have dreams too. Just nothing involving Doomsday clock since 2019 started...


Doomsday Clock delays...feh. I remember Ms. Mystic. 16 months between issues #1 and #2 for the two issue 1982-84 series. 15 months between issues #4 and #5 in the nine issue 1988-92 series, etc.


Vidmaster7 wrote:
all hopes: Watchmen now Doomsday clock later....

The TV show is a sequel to the original graphic novel, but draws on Doomsday Clock for inspiration. Some Doomsday Clock characters are in the TV show.


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What, like Superman?


I would be down for that Him and Batsy are pretty integral to the story.

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I liked the first episode. I still think that

Spoiler:
Don Johnson is really Dan AKA Nite Owl 2 from the comic. A copy of "Under the Hood", the owl coffee mug in His office. With the wealth and power Vieidt would have, He could have easily helped Dan with a new identity.

I loved the call backs to the comic and the movie. I'm going to see where it goes.


Well to me, we have two choices as I see. Either Jeremy Irons character is Adrian Veidt or he's actually Doctor Manhattan. Regardless, I'm convinced his servants are his first attempt at AI robots and thus we'll get to see what THAT entails...


I haven't watched the show yet, but if the casting is remotely appropriate, and given the choice of those two characters, Jeremy Irons must be Veidt. Very easy to see him playing an amoral super genius.

It's hard to imagine Dr. Manhattan would even be in this show, for at least a couple of reasons: (1) the writers pretty much couldn't allow him to do anything, or he'd be changing the world from week to week; (2) at the end of the comic series, Jon left Earth to find a galaxy less complicated. Why come back after only a few years? Why impersonate a normal human? (3) again, keeping in mind I haven't watched the premiere yet...why would Dr. M need servants, robotic or otherwise?


I dunno about 1, but I thought the answer to 2 is "How do we know this is Earth?"


Thomas Seitz wrote:
I dunno about 1, but I thought the answer to 2 is "How do we know this is Earth?"

Occam's Razor. Simpler to believe that what appears to Earth, is Earth-Watchmen (absent Dr. Manhattan) than to suppose it's some other Earth-like world being visited by -- perhaps even created by? -- an unseen Dr. M.

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One of the trailers hinted that Dr. Manhattan is in this. On earth.


CapeCodRPGer wrote:
One of the trailers hinted that Dr. Manhattan is in this. On earth.

I guess I missed that trailer.


The only thing I saw about Dr Manhattan was that he was on Mars.

But I will grant Damon the right that it might be on the Earth of Watchman rather than an Earth Dr Manhattan made.

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I dont mind the mysteries (like the squids) but i'm a little worried that the payoff isn't going to be worth it. (Like Lost) I hope i'm wrong though.

So far, there are enough threads to keep me engaged, and I love the Easter eggs.


I'm not that concerned with the payoff considering this is just riffing off Alan Moore's stuff rather than trying to do Doomsday Clock.


lol, man im so glad they dont take ideas from you.


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Yeah well. If they did, maybe we wouldn't have gotten Last Jedi. :p ;)


Thomas Seitz wrote:
Yeah well. If they did, maybe we wouldn't have gotten Last Jedi. :p ;)

We can all agree, that if they had listened to you in the case of Last Jedi, it would have been a good thing...


Well good because first of all, they should have NEVER killed off Snoke. Or if they did, it should have been more impactful. Also they needed a better heel.


Werthead wrote:
It's a sequel, set 30 years after the graphic novel (and definitely the graphic novel, they're ignoring the Snyder movie from what I can tell).

Oh thank you. that makes a lot more sense why there's a dial a dr. Manhattan phone-booth without everyone going into it being lynched.

Is Veidt a clone? I mean if you took a normal person you get the dummy clones, if you took veidt you'd get someone smart but not quite all there smart? (and the game warden is.. another clone?)

What dropped the car at the end? Was that dr. manhatten laughing at the joke or just a coincidence with owlman and company dropping it off?

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Is Veidt a clone? I mean if you took a normal person you get the dummy clones, if you took veidt you'd get someone smart but not quite all there smart? (and the game warden is.. another clone?)

I dont believe Viedt is a clone at all. I think he is on Mars in some kind of prison isolation like Napoleon Bonaparte. His experiments are testing his ability to escape his prison.

BigNorseWolf wrote:
What dropped the car at the end? Was that dr. Manhattan laughing at the joke or just a coincidence with owlman and company dropping it off?

Whoever is working with our mystery man (lou Gosset Jr) seems to have dropped the vehicle. Not sure if Laurie knows who specifically did it, or she is just laughing as she has now embraced being the comedian's daughter.

I do want to know how Chief Judd came into possession of Archie. My theory is that based on the Senators subtle jab at Laurie about "presidents can pardon and release her Owl from its cage" means that nite owl II is currently cooling his heels in some Federal prison. Archie could have been taken in a civil forfeiture type situation which explains how it ended up in Tulsa.


Pan,

See that's what I thought too! Mostly because it didn't make sense why he would still be on Earth IF the FBI thought he was dead.

Also I think Laurie's kind of already lost it based on the fact she immediately shot a guy with a bomb on his chest...

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The show runners said that

Spoiler:
it was'nt Archie in the first episode. But Archie may show up later.

I loved in last episode when

Spoiler:
Adrian said "Republic Serial Villian". One of my favorite lines for the comic. I was bummed it was'nt in movie, but I understand why it was'nt in.


So...I'm guessing Watchmen is now bringing in baby Kal-el. Because Clark as a last name...can they BE any more on the nose??


Spoiler:
I don't think its superman. I think its the dimensional rift where ozzy is sending the clones through with a catapult. He's not on mars he's one wittershin aft of earth. The guy froze on a rope because he wound up in the upper atmosphere


Lube man was hilarious.


Wolf,

I'm not convinced because I was more certain he's still in this galaxy/reality.

But yes, Orville, Lube Man was/is hilarious.

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