Blindsense clarification


Monsters and Hazards

Grand Lodge

I think the paragraph on blindsense need to be written more clearly, pg 301.

..."Against a creature taking precautions to avoid visual detection, a creature with blindsense treats sensed creatures as if they were concealed, and treats unseen creatures as if they they were sensed."

It appears to be saying that if I have blindsense and my enemy was closing in and trying to be concealed, I know they are there but they have they concealed condition.

However, the remaining part of the final quoted sentence has is stumped. We think we know the intention but it is certainly not clear.

To clarify... that last part of the sentence after the comma apply to the first part where an enemy is "taking precautions..."


Basically, a creature with blindsense treats a sneaking/stealthed/invisible creature as one degree more detected than usual, because their special sense bypasses the usual precautions a creature would take against being detected.

Unseen means that the creature doesn't know what square the stealthy creature is in.

Sensed means that the creature knows what square the stealthy creature is in, but can't pinpoint it. This imposes a DC 11 flat check to hit the stealthy creature.

Concealment means that you know where the stealthy creature is, and can mostly see it, but still have a chance to miss. It gives a DC 5 flat check to hit the creature.

See the Detecting Creatures rules on page 302 for more information.

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