Total Cover Gone?


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I've done my best to comb through the rulebook and tried searching for an answer in threads on this forum but so far I've come up with nothing. I apologize if I'm just blind.

Is something like Total Cover gone in PF 2.0?

I understand that cover still exists, and as per the rulebook "To determine whether a target has cover from an attack, the attacking creature or object draws a line from the center of its space to the center of the target's space. If that Line passes through any blocking terrain, the target has cover."

I've tried to find 'blocking terrain' and there's nothing. Under Line of Effect there are a few pertinent rules but they seem focused on spells, and I can't find any links anywhere else to ranged attacks.

So my question would be: What, as per RAW, prevents a PC from shooting through a house to hit a target on the other side?


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The short version is 'the building does'.

See Perception. Attacking an Unseen Target is a completely secret roll, and requires a successful DC 11 Secret Flat Check. You wouldn't even be told whether or not you've targeted the correct square. They also have Cover (which doubles if they 'take cover').

Chances are you'll hit part of the building instead.


I hope full cover is in there somewhere. As it stands you're safer standing behind a shower curtain than a door. I assume its safe to use the line of effects rules from 298, that as long as there isn't a 1 foot square opening in the barrier, you can't be targeted.

Are creatures completely covered by a barrier unseen™?


While I agree that there has to be SOME mention of blocking terrain in the final rules, I think everyone with a brain can understand that you can't shoot through a closed door without hitting the door.


FitzTheRuke wrote:
While I agree that there has to be SOME mention of blocking terrain in the final rules, I think everyone with a brain can understand that you can't shoot through a closed door without hitting the door.

I agree. However, I'm attempting to scour the rules for a RAW clarification on this. Were I not running this as a playtest, I would use the line of effect rules for certain.

From what I can see on page 314, the book is saying that Kyra can shoot the ogre with a ranged attack, but the ogre has cover and screening. However...it sure looks like she's shooting right through a house.

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