Action symbols


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I have scotopic sensitivity, which is basically dyslexia caused by eye strain. I find that the new action symbols are hard to read for the multi action activities, as the lateral weight is wonky when they are "stacked" the symbols having 1 more 'square' than the number of actions they represent (the little one contained in the leftmost square) makes them hard for me to read at a glance.

Anyone else having this issue?


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I was impressed with the symbol as a neat piece of graphic design, but I could see how it could be difficult to parse. If the little box w/ the first arrow wasn't separated, but rather seamless with the first square, would that fix the issue?


Another thread noted it wasn't accessibility friendly for folks with text to speech software or other software needs as they generally cannot interpret these proprietary symbols. I think some symbols as part of the Noun Project are accessible-friendly.


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Vic said

Vic Wertz wrote:
Terminalmancer wrote:
Hmmm. Accessibility of the PDF is low, as expected--the icons don't have any text associated with them, so in the event you're using text-to-speech you can't tell what's an action, what's a reaction, and so on.
We are preparing a separate accessible version of the PDF that should be available soon.

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I think that adding a letter, such as A for Action, R for Reaction, and F for Free would help. I think that the action symbols are a good idea, but need just a little more work. (By the way, the 3 action symbol reminds me of the Cardassian symbol in Star Trek.)

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I thought the 3 action symbol and the 2 action symbol looked to similar. It was easy to tell at a glance the difference between 1 action and either 2 or 3, but without paying close attention, I found it pretty easy to mistake the 3-action symbol for the 2-action symbol.


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JoelF847 wrote:
I thought the 3 action symbol and the 2 action symbol looked to similar. It was easy to tell at a glance the difference between 1 action and either 2 or 3, but without paying close attention, I found it pretty easy to mistake the 3-action symbol for the 2-action symbol.

I am vision-impaired and this has proven to be my exact problem, I also find them aesthetically unpleasant (do not really like them in RPGs, great for CCGs), would prefer, simply:

2 Actions, 3 Actions, or Actions (2), Actions (3), or something.


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They should probably make it easier for the visually-impaired folk.
Otherwise I think I like them being a thing, esp with reading spell entries and in the bestiary. Let's me skim everything faster and find the right bit.

Edit: I wouldn't object to a giant A, R, or F though. As again, that could help some folk.

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I would prefer A, 2A, 3A, R etc. No symbols or icons at all.

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I can see them fine and still don't like them. Shouldn't let graphic design supercede useability and words or letters/numbers would be more natural.

As far as a seperate accessibility document, do you really want to be obligated to make one for every single release? Because every book is going to have some abilities in it.


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I like em.


I'm in the process of html-ifying the playtest (since the pdfs lack links, and this heavily-referential game requires the ability to jump back and forth to understand it), and I just use the convention that I think I saw in the blogs: [F], [R], [A], [A][A], [A][A][A].

I like this better than A, 2A, 3A, since it's easier at a glance to see the difference between them.


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I prefer simply 1, 2, 3, R, F. Old, well-worked-in and instantly recognizable symbols that are easily printed in a large variety of media.


Why not use ◆⃟ ?


Mekkis wrote:
Why not use ◆⃟ ?

To represent what? I'm not sure that's an improvement from what we have.


Mekkis wrote:
Why not use ◆⃟ ?

Why use ◆⃟ ? It doesn't format correctly, running into words before it and for me is less useful/recognizable than actual letters and numbers.

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