Joss Whedon joins forces with HBO for new SF show


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Just so.

Whedon describes THE NEVERS as his "most ambitious narrative to date", a serialised story about a group of young women in the Victorian era who have strange and unusual powers (so far, so Whedon).

Whedon apparently presented the project (which started life as a comic book he had planned a few years ago) to several studios, starting a bidding war between HBO and Netflix that ended with HBO victorious. HBO have given a straight-to-series order, without even having to go through the pilot stage.

This continues HBO's aggressive move into genre television, following their greenlighting of the GAME OF THRONES: THE LONG NIGHT pilot, their development of a second GAME OF THRONES spin-off (called EMPIRE OF ASH), their commissioning of a third season of WESTWORLD, their pilot order for the WATCHMEN sequel series, their Jordan Peele horror collaboration (THE LOVECRAFT DIARIES) and their collaboration with J.J. Abrams on a new TV series (DEMIMONDE), although this may be delayed due to his commitment to STAR WARS EPISODE IX.


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sinks to knees

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


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sinks to knees

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I had the odds on the first person/reply being this at around 8 in 10. Sadly, no one was going to bet against that.

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I was excited about the summary when I read it. I hope their powers are occult/steampunk/mad science themed, and not just modern day super hero stuff.

I'm somewhat thinking the show might be like an all female version of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Interested to see how it compares to that and to Penny Dreadful.

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Werthead wrote:
Whedon describes THE NEVERS as his "most ambitious narrative to date", a serialised story about a group of young women in the Victorian era who have strange and unusual powers (so far, so Whedon).

... I have a bad feeling about this.

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Why did this get funding.


Rysky wrote:
Werthead wrote:
Whedon describes THE NEVERS as his "most ambitious narrative to date", a serialised story about a group of young women in the Victorian era who have strange and unusual powers (so far, so Whedon).
... I have a bad feeling about this.

My feelings exactly.


Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Werthead wrote:
Whedon describes THE NEVERS as his "most ambitious narrative to date", a serialised story about a group of young women in the Victorian era who have strange and unusual powers (so far, so Whedon).
... I have a bad feeling about this.
My feelings exactly.

At first I was excited about an HBO SF series, even with Wheddon. Then, I read that first paragraph and wanted to puke.

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I like the idea of Victorians with superpowers. I'm not sure I trust Whedon to do the research to do the historical elements right, let alone the fact that his being at the helm probably means they're all tiny waifs with angst about how their evil boyfriend doesn't love them.

Whedon has had a few good ideas--I enjoyed Angel the series in particular (fanboys/girls ruined Firefly for me)--but I haven't seen him have a good idea in a very, very longtime.

There is a CHANCE, just a chance, it could be okay though. If it's kind of like Giles' aunts in the Buffy Comic having their own show, that might be amusing.

Well, at least this keeps him away from Batgirl (which he left). Good luck to him.

I don't get HBO so I'll probably never see it anyway.


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I like the idea of Victorians with superpowers. I'm not sure I trust Whedon to do the research to do the historical elements right, let alone the fact that his being at the helm probably means they're all tiny waifs with angst about how their evil boyfriend doesn't love them.

Whedon has had a few good ideas--I enjoyed Angel the series in particular (fanboys/girls ruined Firefly for me)--but I haven't seen him have a good idea in a very, very longtime.

There is a CHANCE, just a chance, it could be okay though. If it's kind of like Giles' aunts in the Buffy Comic having their own show, that might be amusing.

Well, at least this keeps him away from Batgirl (which he left). Good luck to him.

I don't get HBO so I'll probably never see it anyway.

you mean I am not alone?!

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Freehold DM wrote:
DeathQuaker wrote:

I like the idea of Victorians with superpowers. I'm not sure I trust Whedon to do the research to do the historical elements right, let alone the fact that his being at the helm probably means they're all tiny waifs with angst about how their evil boyfriend doesn't love them.

Whedon has had a few good ideas--I enjoyed Angel the series in particular (fanboys/girls ruined Firefly for me)--but I haven't seen him have a good idea in a very, very longtime.

There is a CHANCE, just a chance, it could be okay though. If it's kind of like Giles' aunts in the Buffy Comic having their own show, that might be amusing.

Well, at least this keeps him away from Batgirl (which he left). Good luck to him.

I don't get HBO so I'll probably never see it anyway.

you mean I am not alone?!

No, and I've met other folks who feel similarly. Browncoats at least at one point, when they especially wouldn't shut up about whatever or stop quoting the show, induce a certain sort of rage in me that's hard to describe. When they're near me, I generally start talking about how awesome that scene was in Serenity where Wash died, and then I laugh wickedly while drinking their tears.

The really frustrating thing is the show wasn't bad--some good things, some bad, but it was more than watchable--but I can't even look at it without picturing some nerdy a@#$$!+ going on about how sexy Nathan Fillion is or quoting Jayne or whatever and I know I will never be able to watch the show again without feeling bitter.

(Mind, I'm sure people feel similarly about me and the way I go on about some of my fandoms, but I try hard--don't know if I succeed--not to be too insufferable. And at the same time, despite any bitter feelings I might have, I wouldn't go into a Firefly forum and tell them to stop liking it or anything.)

Maybe that's part of my hesitation about interest in this show. Less, "will it be good," than, "what kind of obnoxious fans will it produce"?


DeathQuaker wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
DeathQuaker wrote:

I like the idea of Victorians with superpowers. I'm not sure I trust Whedon to do the research to do the historical elements right, let alone the fact that his being at the helm probably means they're all tiny waifs with angst about how their evil boyfriend doesn't love them.

Whedon has had a few good ideas--I enjoyed Angel the series in particular (fanboys/girls ruined Firefly for me)--but I haven't seen him have a good idea in a very, very longtime.

There is a CHANCE, just a chance, it could be okay though. If it's kind of like Giles' aunts in the Buffy Comic having their own show, that might be amusing.

Well, at least this keeps him away from Batgirl (which he left). Good luck to him.

I don't get HBO so I'll probably never see it anyway.

you mean I am not alone?!

No, and I've met other folks who feel similarly. Browncoats at least at one point, when they especially wouldn't shut up about whatever or stop quoting the show, induce a certain sort of rage in me that's hard to describe. When they're near me, I generally start talking about how awesome that scene was in Serenity where Wash died, and then I laugh wickedly while drinking their tears.

The really frustrating thing is the show wasn't bad--some good things, some bad, but it was more than watchable--but I can't even look at it without picturing some nerdy a#@!%#+ going on about how sexy Nathan Fillion is or quoting Jayne or whatever and I know I will never be able to watch the show again without feeling bitter.

(Mind, I'm sure people feel similarly about me and the way I go on about some of my fandoms, but I try hard--don't know if I succeed--not to be too insufferable.)

Maybe that's part of my hesitation about interest in this show. Less, "will it be good," than, "what kind of obnoxious fans will it produce"?

I usually just say it's my favorite part of the film...

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Never seen Firefly so avoided all that.

I just hate Whedon as a person and as a director and don't trust him when it involves women.


Some more info: shooting starts in June and runs through February, so the show will likely air in late 2020.

Jane Espenson, who has worked with Whedon on just about everything since Buffy, will be the co-showrunner and another writer on this project. Playwright Madhuri Shekar and journalist Laurie Penny will also be writers on the project.


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I don't think of myself as a Whedon fanboi, but I really enjoyed Buffy and Firefly. Angel...was okay. It probably helped that I never paid attention to what other fans of the shows thought outside my immediate circle of friends.

I enjoyed Jane Espenson's work on Buffy and Gilmore Girls, so that's another reason for me to give this series a look.

Both Buffy and Firefly are rather quotable, but then my wife and I have long had a weird form of twinspeak shorthand that incorporates quotes from Monty Python, Danger Mouse, 1776 (the musical), the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, The Tick and a score of other sources as part of everyday conversation. (Babylon 5 has some of the greatest bits of dialogue ever, but most of it can't be dropped into a normal conversation as shorthand for anything.)


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Not very usable but my favorite quote.


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I do get some use out of "No boom today."


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I have enjoyed pretty much all of the Whedon shows, even if I do think some of his later works (Dollhouse and yes...Firefly) were not as strong as Buffy or Angel.

I'll certainly watch this, although I generally only subscribe to HBO for a couple of months per year, then binge everything I am interested. Personally more interested in the Lovecraft Country adaptation by Peele than anything else listed there.


sounds interesting and as long as he dials back on the problems they have it could be good.


Lead role cast in THE NEVERS.

Interestingly, this show seems to be casting much older than Whedon's shows normally skew.


Full cast list.

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