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It's official: Variety.com: "CW Orders ‘Batwoman’ Pilot Starring Ruby Rose"


YUESSS!!!!! *fist pump*


Great news^^


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It's not exactly a surprise, but now the pilot won't be alone:

Variety.com: "‘Batwoman,’ ‘Katy Keene,’ ‘Nancy Drew’ Ordered to Series at CW"

And here's an animated teaser (Twitter)


Well of those, I'm hoping Batwoman survived for like 8 seasons.

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Waaait wait wait wait, the Jane the Virgin spinoff isn't happening? G@! D$$MIT! That is absolutely one of the best, most intelligent shows on TV and it deserved its sequel. (To be very clear, I am not being sarcastic. I love that show, it is frickin' brilliant. It's one of those shows that looks dumb at a glance and then you watch it and it's an entirely different thing. It is an incredible family series, romance, deals with political issues with nuance and finesse, is one of the only shows since Maude where someone had an abortion that I am aware of and it was dealt with intelligently, deals with women's and LGBT issues brilliantly, has three amazing women at the core of it performed by incredible actresses, has some incredible satire, and yes on the surface it's a hilarious balls to the wall telenovela AND on top of all that it has Bridget Regan as an evil lesbian. Even if the sequel was more of a separate series inspired by Jane with no returning characters, F*&% the CW.) I am heartbroken.

F@+$ Katy Keene, too.

Good news about Batwoman, I guess.


Yeah...I can't say I'm that impressed but again, I'm more hopeful about Batwoman since I loved her original run in Detective Comics.


DeathQuaker wrote:

Waaait wait wait wait, the Jane the Virgin spinoff isn't happening? G$* D#&MIT! That is absolutely one of the best, most intelligent shows on TV and it deserved its sequel. (To be very clear, I am not being sarcastic. I love that show, it is frickin' brilliant. It's one of those shows that looks dumb at a glance and then you watch it and it's an entirely different thing. It is an incredible family series, romance, deals with political issues with nuance and finesse, is one of the only shows since Maude where someone had an abortion that I am aware of and it was dealt with intelligently, deals with women's and LGBT issues brilliantly, has three amazing women at the core of it performed by incredible actresses, has some incredible satire, and yes on the surface it's a hilarious balls to the wall telenovela AND on top of all that it has Bridget Regan as an evil lesbian. Even if the sequel was more of a separate series inspired by Jane with no returning characters, F@&* the CW.) I am heartbroken.

F~!# Katy Keene, too.

Good news about Batwoman, I guess.

if my source is to be believed, like a lot of American takes on telenovelas, it got way too expensive to keep going.


Free,

Sounds accurate.

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Freehold DM wrote:
DeathQuaker wrote:

Waaait wait wait wait, the Jane the Virgin spinoff isn't happening? G$* D#&MIT! That is absolutely one of the best, most intelligent shows on TV and it deserved its sequel. (To be very clear, I am not being sarcastic. I love that show, it is frickin' brilliant. It's one of those shows that looks dumb at a glance and then you watch it and it's an entirely different thing. It is an incredible family series, romance, deals with political issues with nuance and finesse, is one of the only shows since Maude where someone had an abortion that I am aware of and it was dealt with intelligently, deals with women's and LGBT issues brilliantly, has three amazing women at the core of it performed by incredible actresses, has some incredible satire, and yes on the surface it's a hilarious balls to the wall telenovela AND on top of all that it has Bridget Regan as an evil lesbian. Even if the sequel was more of a separate series inspired by Jane with no returning characters, F@&* the CW.) I am heartbroken.

F~!# Katy Keene, too.

Good news about Batwoman, I guess.

if my source is to be believed, like a lot of American takes on telenovelas, it got way too expensive to keep going.

Your source is not to be believed. Jane the Virgin was always designed to be 5 seasons and was planned to be ended this year from the get-go. Given the new series I don't think even had a pilot yet, I doubt it had a budget to be objected to yet. Even if they had filmed the pilot, I expect more of the thing is the CW decided to go back to its older formula of teen dramas, based on the success of Riverdale.

And what is this "like a lot of American takes on telenovelas" coming from? There's not exactly that many.

Further, Jane was a non-superhero show on the CW, same for the sequel. I doubt its budget was anywhere near as concerning as, say, the Flash or Legends of Tomorrow. It's not like Rose and Luisa formed an atomic superbeing whenever they kissed or anything. (Well, not literally, anyway.)

Speaking of the superhero shows, I _am_ truly interested in Batwoman... sort of. I want to like Ruby Rose but I found her performance in the Crisis crossover a little stilted. Hopefully that was just due to the limitations of that particular crossover.


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DeathQuaker wrote:

Waaait wait wait wait, the Jane the Virgin spinoff isn't happening? G$* D#&MIT! That is absolutely one of the best, most intelligent shows on TV and it deserved its sequel. (To be very clear, I am not being sarcastic. I love that show, it is frickin' brilliant. It's one of those shows that looks dumb at a glance and then you watch it and it's an entirely different thing. It is an incredible family series, romance, deals with political issues with nuance and finesse, is one of the only shows since Maude where someone had an abortion that I am aware of and it was dealt with intelligently, deals with women's and LGBT issues brilliantly, has three amazing women at the core of it performed by incredible actresses, has some incredible satire, and yes on the surface it's a hilarious balls to the wall telenovela AND on top of all that it has Bridget Regan as an evil lesbian. Even if the sequel was more of a separate series inspired by Jane with no returning characters, F@&* the CW.) I am heartbroken.

F~!# Katy Keene, too.

Good news about Batwoman, I guess.

if my source is to be believed, like a lot of American takes on telenovelas, it got way too expensive to keep going.

Your source is not to be believed. Jane the Virgin was always designed to be 5 seasons and was planned to be ended this year from the get-go. Given the new series I don't think even had a pilot yet, I doubt it had a budget to be objected to yet. Even if they had filmed the pilot, I expect more of the thing is the CW decided to go back to its older formula of teen dramas, based on the success of Riverdale.

And what is this "like a lot of American takes on telenovelas" coming from? There's not exactly that many.

Further, Jane was a non-superhero show on the CW, same for the sequel. I doubt its budget was anywhere near as concerning as, say, the Flash or Legends of Tomorrow. It's not like Rose and Luisa formed an atomic superbeing whenever they kissed or anything. (Well, not...

I'll bring this up when I see them again. Thanks.

And there were scheduled to be at least a few more ugly Betty-esque shows meant to compete when the show was at the height of its popularity. But the one I know about was supposed to rely upon having super famous guest star appearances, and that got too expensive too quickly and so it was dropped before it got past some early planning stages.

Re: the bold, I REALLY want to see that comic...

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Ah. I think the "Jane the Novela" concept was supposed to be different stories Jane wrote, and while I think that could be a budget challenge (lots of different sets and the like) I can't imagine it would be anywhere close to Legends of Tomorrow where they go through different time periods and now hellscapes every episode, with superpowers to boot. (COme to think of it Legends of Tomorrow is sort of a superhero telenovela that somehow doesn't have any Latinos in it.)

I would like also to see that comic. And the movie that is made from it. And the ongoing series....

As a consolation to the fact that will likely never happen, maybe the Tick can hire Bridget Regan to play a character who romances Ms. Lint. Sparks will fly!


DQ,

I'm still hopeful that Ruby Rose can do better with a) an actual script for her character and b) more practice on her American accent.

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New Batwoman Trailer

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Looks pretty good. They've said for a while that the show will start before where Batwoman was in the Elseworlds crossover, but I'm wondering if that will be only the pilot, then time jump to after Elseworlds to be chronologically in sync with the other Arrowverse shows for the Crisis in the fall, or will the entire first season be prior to then?

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The dialogue is a little heavy handed with the "girl power" (And when _I'm_ saying that that's saying something) and they stole Captain Marvel's "her a hero" ("A hero is her?" Seriously?). Bbbbbuuuuuuuut I'd rather this than nothing, and Ruby Rose looks waaaaaaaay more comfortable in the role than she seemed in the crossover. I like the dystopic future feel... it looks a LOT like the old Birds of Prey TV show but with (moments of clunky dialogue aside) way better production values, worldbuild and writing.

And speaking of the old Birds of Prey TV show, the evil blonde lady you see in the trailer is a villain called Alice (of the "Alice in Wonderland" gang, so I wonder if she is a successor to Mad Hatter) and is played by Rachel Skarsten, who played Dinah in the old BoP show.

I am super jazzed about having our first out lesbian superhero solo lead on TV!

It'll air on Sundays, so I wonder if this is going to be paired with Supergirl on Sunday and Charmed will get moved to another night (Charmed would pair well with Riverdale IMO).

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Looks pretty good. They've said for a while that the show will start before where Batwoman was in the Elseworlds crossover, but I'm wondering if that will be only the pilot, then time jump to after Elseworlds to be chronologically in sync with the other Arrowverse shows for the Crisis in the fall, or will the entire first season be prior to then?

From what I understand Crisis will play out sometime after Batwoman premieres.

Crisis On Infinite Earths Crossover Event Will Air Over 5 Hours

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DeathQuaker wrote:
And speaking of the old Birds of Prey TV show, the evil blonde lady you see in the trailer is a villain called Alice (of the "Alice in Wonderland" gang, so I wonder if she is a successor to Mad Hatter) and is played by Rachel Skarsten, who played Dinah in the old BoP show.

I thought she might be White Rabbit from the comics.

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Charles Scholz wrote:
DeathQuaker wrote:
And speaking of the old Birds of Prey TV show, the evil blonde lady you see in the trailer is a villain called Alice (of the "Alice in Wonderland" gang, so I wonder if she is a successor to Mad Hatter) and is played by Rachel Skarsten, who played Dinah in the old BoP show.

I thought she might be White Rabbit from the comics.

She identifies herself as "Alice" in the trailer, and she is referred to that in the article where you linked the trailer. But they might be pulling from White Rabbit as a possible resource. Or she might be one of the Mad Hatter's sources of obsession who has turned criminal (a la Harley to Joker, as indeed she has a little bit of a Harley vibe).


If it is following the Batwoman comic, in the Elegy story the main antagonist is a character named Alice who is not connected to the Hatter, and looks a lot like this Alice. I am a little reluctant to post spoilers but I will in the spoiler tags.

Spoiler:
That Alice is Kate's long thought dead sister, Beth.

I strongly suspect this is who Alice is.


little diegito is correct in his spoilers about the comic identity of Alice.

I dunno if that's the route the show will go...I do think though we know that a) Luke will be kind of an Alfred meets Morgan Freeman's Lucius Fox. and b) They might spend a little time on getting Kate up to speed time wise with the story. We'll see especially since the Crisis cross over isn't exactly slated for a specific time frame in the schedule. I mean it will happen but it might be like...episode 9 or 10 before we see Kate in the cross over mix on her show.

I could be wrong.


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It'll air on Sundays, so I wonder if this is going to be paired with Supergirl on Sunday and Charmed will get moved to another night (Charmed would pair well with Riverdale IMO).

SUN - Batwoman/Supergirl

MON - All American/Black Lightning
TUE - Flash/Arrow
WED - Riverdale/Nancy Drew
THU - Supernatural/Legacies
FRI - Charmed/Dynasty


On a side note, I wasn't too thrilled with Charmed season finale. But I do think having it paired with something OTHER than Supergirl is fine.

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Charmed's season finale was ok. Which sort of meshes with the whole season. It had some good and bad, mostly balanced out to be fine... but at the same time not terribly compelling. It's odd... I would say overall it is better written and performed than the original Charmed, but the original had this campy OTT charm (ha!) that made it good guilty-pleasure/so-bad-it's-good watching. The new show tries but lacks in that sort of "charisma," for lack of a better word, and its better writing isn't good enough writing to make it compelling on its own. But it got overall better as the season went on, so hopefully the next season will be better.

Pairing it with Dynasty is weird; but eh. Not many other good pairings.

But Batwoman/Supergirl makes perfect sense.


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DeathQuaker wrote:
The dialogue is a little heavy handed with the "girl power" (And when _I'm_ saying that that's saying something) and they stole Captain Marvel's "her a hero" ("A hero is her?" Seriously?). Bbbbbuuuuuuuut I'd rather this than nothing...

checks scanner while pulling a patrol

T-the readings I'm getting...girl power is reaching Amby-ent levels...

[Grizzled Sergeant, chomping cigar]- Stay loose, Freehold.

checks scanner- Uh, Sarge, we're approaching DeathQuaker levels.

[Grizzled Sergeant, chomping cigar]- Stay cool, kid.

loud beeping comes from scanner Sarge, we are exceeding, I repeat, EXCEEDING DeathQuaker levels!

[Flustered, Grizzled Sergeant, fiddling with cigar]- That's impossible. You're either reading it wrong or your scanner is broken.

flatline sound coming from scanner SARGE, GIRL POWER WAVE INCOMING!

[Panicked Sergeant, dropping cigar]- Get that shield up!

pressing buttons at random Controls aren't responding!

[Sergeant] TAKE COVER! TAKE CO-


DeathQuaker wrote:


And speaking of the old Birds of Prey TV show, the evil blonde lady you see in the trailer is a villain called Alice (of the "Alice in Wonderland" gang, so I wonder if she is a successor to Mad Hatter) and is played by Rachel Skarsten, who played Dinah in the old BoP show.

Oooh I hope we are getting white rabbit.


DQ,

I agree Supergirl and Batwoman pairing (the show, not the characters!) makes sense.

But I kept waiting for Charmed to do something a little more...outside the box. Which they didn't. So yeah, the "charm" and Charisma wasn't there...but I did like their Whitelighter more...

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