Level by level doesn’t matter on builds?


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The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

While working on another game system, it occurred to me that level by level advancement doesn’t seem to matter in Starfinder like it does in Pathfinder?

In Pathfinder, we need to track HP and favored class bonuses by level. Neither of those matter in Starfinder. Additionally we have the rebuild items to redo a character.

Can anyone think of anything that requires one to write down the order classes were taken vs just the total of each class you possess?

Grand Lodge

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I suppose meeting the prerequisites for feats requires certain levels still, as well as abilities like expertise talents and their ilk

Dark Archive

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The class you take at 1st level will decide your key ability score.


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Jasque wrote:

The class you take at 1st level will decide your key ability score.

Not entirely true. You can have multiple key ability scores. They all remain the same. Even your resolve is not based on your your first class. It uses the highest bonus.

A multiclassed character can have more than one key ability score. For each class, your key ability score remains the same as normal for that class (and for the class features that rely on that score). For any key ability score calculation not tied to class, such as determining your maximum Resolve Points, use whichever key ability score has the highest value (and therefore the highest modifier).

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

Yea, the key ability doesn't matter for the order like Micheal Smith quoted. For the feat prereq, so long as you qualify it doesn't matter that you remember the order you took the classes.

I'm thinking from a character creation / character sheet perspective. If there isn't anything that matters for order, there is no need to write down the order you took classes and I can't seem to find anything in the system that cares about the order.

Dark Archive

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Thanks for pointing out the rule on multiclassing. I missed that somehow.


You still need to track how many skill ranks and hp/sp each class gives you. There's 3 different tracks for them currently.


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SirShua wrote:
You still need to track how many skill ranks and hp/sp each class gives you. There's 3 different tracks for them currently.

That has literally nothing to do with what was being discussed. There is no order in which they need to be recorded. If I went 2 levels Envoy then 2 levels Soldier it does not matter which order I list them. Where Pathfinder it is more relevant especially for Society. When the first level is different in terms of HP.

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

SirShua wrote:
You still need to track how many skill ranks and hp/sp each class gives you. There's 3 different tracks for them currently.

Yep

Tracking that. But it doesn’t matter how I write them down. If I’ve got 4 levels, I can write it as Envoy 2, Soldier 2 or Envoy 1, Soldier 1, Envoy 2, Soldier 2 and both are equivalent. 4 levels splits 2 and 2.


The Mnemonic Editor lets you re-do your last two levels, so you at least have to keep track of your two most recent levels.

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

Great point Dracomicron! That seems to be the only thing in the game that cares about what level order you have. Maybe just a spot to note "Last two levels: " would be sufficient and update it every time you level.

Thanks to every indulging my curiosity.

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