Rise of the Hunger Lords


Rise of the Runelords


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I've been running the Rise of the Runelords adventure path. One of my players is a necromancer with a flair for evil spells. She casts the spell Starvation on a group of Simulacra succubus' Does the nature of the runewell to magicly sustain people inside stop this spell?


I can't find any spell called Starvation. Do you have the name of the spell right?


It's a spell from Freeport City of Adventure from Green Ronin publishing

Starvation

School necromancy [evil]; Level antipaladin 3, cleric/
oracle 3, inquisitor 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, witch 3
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V, S, M/DF (a piece of rotten fruit)
Range 30 ft.
Targets all living creatures within 30 ft.
Duration 1 round/level (D)
Saving Throw Fortitude negates; Spell Resistance yes

You cause all living creatures in range to become gripped
with incredible pangs of hunger, as if they haven’t eaten
for days. Creatures affected by this spell are sickened for
the duration. In addition, the targets must succeed on a
Constitution check against the spell’s DC each round
or be nauseated for 1 round. Any time a creature takes
a move action to eat while affected (provoking attacks
of opportunity), it gains a +1 bonus to its Constitution
checks against the spell for the rest of the duration.
Bonuses from eating for multiple rounds stack.

Sorry I didn't know it was a 3rd party release, seeing as it's being sold on the Paizo website I thought it was cannon. My Herolab didn't list it among the other 3rd party stuff.But the question does involve Paizo content "Rise of the Runelords". So I'm not sure where to post it.


I think it would go in the Rise of the Runelord's subforum.

I don't think the enchantment on Runeforge would negate the spell outright, but I'd count every round as one where they "ate" since the magic provides nourishment (so +1 to save per round, cumulative). Also give them a +2 circumstance bonus on the initial save.


I though because it doesn't actually say it makes you starve, It just says you feel "As if" you're starving and eating gives you a bonus on you're Con checks. I have a feeling that a Ghost in the undead section is still gonna age you with its Corrupting Touch even though the Runeforge protects against aging. So I awarded the player that the spell worked but I wanted to run it by you guys to see what you say.


I think that the spell would work and the artifact would have no effect. The artifact meets needs, but doesn't feed you, so you wouldn't get the bonus for eating, unless you actually took the move action and ate something.

In fact, the spell itself doesn't actually make you hungry, it gives you pangs of hunger. A subtle difference, but important when it comes to this. The fact that eating only gives a bonus is another sure sign that this isn't actual hunger; that would be solved by eating; this is a magically induced feeling of hunger.


And the passive ability of the Runeforge suppresses hunger, and aging. It is a conflicting magical effect. While I agree that the Starvation spell should work and be more powerful, I think the Runeforges CL 20 effect should interact with the spell a bit, like I described above.


I guess a GM could interpret it that way, but it seems to me that the artifact suppresses hunger, not the feeling of hunger. Ordinarily you would never feel the feelings of hunger without actually being hungry, but this spell bypasses that. Oh well, I don't think either interpretation could be considered pure RAW, especially since the spell itself is 3rd party... so I guess any given GM could choose to go one way or another.

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