Mythic Hierophant


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Is it:
For each charge expended (... may shuffle 1 card)
or
(For each charge expaneded ... ) ... may shuffle 1 card

i.e. if I spend six charges do I shuffle 6 cards or 1 card?

As far as I can tell the wording is 100% ambiguous. My original, natural reading was the first (i.e. 6 charges), but the powers on other mythic abilities don't make sense to be per charge so I then wonder about this one.

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I read it as the second. However many charges you spend, you only heal 1 card.


Same question for Mythic Marshall actually, can I transfer all the charges or just one charge? Starting to think it is just one but if so been playing it wrong the whole time...


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Irgy wrote:
Same question for Mythic Marshall actually, can I transfer all the charges or just one charge? Starting to think it is just one but if so been playing it wrong the whole time...

Formally has been answered in a FAQ for a long while, I'm afraid. You've been playing it as much more powerful than it is.


Ok, so the Marshal is in the FAQ but the Hierophant isn't. Now, on the one hand, the FAQ confirms that the intention was for this effect, like most (or maybe all) of the others, to not care how many charges were expended. On the other hand, the FAQ changes the wording, which implies that the existing wording meant the opposite. So it's kind of evidence both ways with regards to the Hierophant.

I think I'm going to assume it's one card for now, but it'd be nice if that was anything other than a guess.

Not too concerned on the doing it wrong front, since it's only ever resulted in passing the second check in the final villain fight with about 3x the required value, pretty sure we'd have made those checks regardless. But good to know.


That's a good point. I re-read both cards to check this out.

See, the issue here to me is that both are implicit to my reading. When Marshal (as written, not as FAQed) says "and if you succeed at the check, choose another character at your location to get a charge", I would read that as a new statement. Specifically because I parse it mentally as "spend charges to do X. Because I have spent one or more charges, after the check this additional thing happens". If it was intended otherwise, I reason, it would specify "choose another character at your location to get a charge for each charge expended".

I would parse the Heirophant the same way. Its power reads "and after the check, a character at your location may shuffle 1 card from her discard pile into their deck", which I parse as "spend charges to do X. Because I have spent one or more charges, after the check this additional thing happens".

Perhaps they never FAQed the Heirophant because the repeat references to singular entities ("a character may shuffle 1 card") was less confusing to players than the Marshal's? The use of "1" rather than "a" regarding cards/charges comes to mind.

But I completely agree. The fact that one is FAQed but the other - with the same specific problem text - is not does imply that they work differently, even though I'm quite confident that the intent is that the effect (besides the die replacement) does not scale with number of charges expended.

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