What classes does Pathfinder Core need?


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Corrik wrote:
Orville Redenbacher wrote:
Guns face the same problem as the katana. Everybody thinks they are cool, but some folks they should be doing 2D20 damage and cut tanks in half. Hopefully guns dont make the core cut and are supplement territory imho.
But they've been folded over a million times! They're basically metal lightsabers. 2d20 with a 13-20/x4 crit range is just an accurate representation of the weapon.

Fun fact to trot out every time someone talks about the superiority of katanas... the folding metal technique was, in part, developed because Japanese iron ore was very low quality, and all that extra work needs to be done to make something on par with a European blade.


Neriathale wrote:
Corrik wrote:
Orville Redenbacher wrote:
Guns face the same problem as the katana. Everybody thinks they are cool, but some folks they should be doing 2D20 damage and cut tanks in half. Hopefully guns dont make the core cut and are supplement territory imho.
But they've been folded over a million times! They're basically metal lightsabers. 2d20 with a 13-20/x4 crit range is just an accurate representation of the weapon.
Fun fact to trot out every time someone talks about the superiority of katanas... the folding metal technique was, in part, developed because Japanese iron ore was very low quality, and all that extra work needs to be done to make something on par with a European blade.

Also it was like a million layers, not folded a million times

And there was a limit how often you could fold the steel to make it better (which was partially depending on the iron I guess) but from a certain point it only made the blade weaker (i think around a thousand times folded was the absolute maximum - which wasnt neccessarily better then katanas not foldes as many times)


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Seisho wrote:
Neriathale wrote:
Corrik wrote:
Orville Redenbacher wrote:
Guns face the same problem as the katana. Everybody thinks they are cool, but some folks they should be doing 2D20 damage and cut tanks in half. Hopefully guns dont make the core cut and are supplement territory imho.
But they've been folded over a million times! They're basically metal lightsabers. 2d20 with a 13-20/x4 crit range is just an accurate representation of the weapon.
Fun fact to trot out every time someone talks about the superiority of katanas... the folding metal technique was, in part, developed because Japanese iron ore was very low quality, and all that extra work needs to be done to make something on par with a European blade.

Also it was like a million layers, not folded a million times

And there was a limit how often you could fold the steel to make it better (which was partially depending on the iron I guess) but from a certain point it only made the blade weaker (i think around a thousand times folded was the absolute maximum - which wasnt neccessarily better then katanas not foldes as many times)

2 limits. One the carbon gets worked out of the metal the more it gets folded. Two, after a certain number of folds the layers break up because there's so many of them they'd each be less than an atom thick.

I think the "over 1000" folds thing is a mistranslation. After 10 folds there's 1024 layers.


Oh, so this thread is just about my firearms now? Whoops. My bad.


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Azih wrote:
Oh boy, Firearms are going to be Paladin levels of fun aren't they?

I love to mix both. I'm going to make a paladin with revolvers. Will get mount as spirit ally, and will call myself Lonely Ranger.


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gustavo iglesias wrote:
Azih wrote:
Oh boy, Firearms are going to be Paladin levels of fun aren't they?
I love to mix both. I'm going to make a paladin with revolvers. Will get mount as spirit ally, and will call myself Lonely Ranger.

Don't forget to be a goblin, while you're at it.


Since we're just talking theory, I'd love to see the Summoner in core. To me it is THE draw of the system now - no other game has such an interesting, fun, and versatile class for my tastes. I know there are some ways to game it so it becomes broken as all heck, but that's not the reason I love it (or anything I would ever do). I love having the option of a good background character who isn't averse to hiding behind her BIG FRIEND, for instance, or any of the other nice combinations you can build. And if you play gestalts, rogue and summoner are fun fun fun.

Besides, if you can't see the appeal of Mr. Giggles the Hydralisk, I don't know what to tell ya!


Darigaaz the Igniter wrote:
gustavo iglesias wrote:
Azih wrote:
Oh boy, Firearms are going to be Paladin levels of fun aren't they?
I love to mix both. I'm going to make a paladin with revolvers. Will get mount as spirit ally, and will call myself Lonely Ranger.
Don't forget to be a goblin, while you're at it.

I had a kender gunslinger (fighter/thief) back in my 2nd Ed Spelljammer days.


There is a special place in hell for all kender around...

...wait... nope not hell, asmodeus wouldn't want them

abyss or abbadon


Seisho wrote:

There is a special place in hell for all kender around...

...wait... nope not hell, asmodeus wouldn't want them

abyss or abbadon

Kenderist.


Weather Report wrote:
Seisho wrote:

There is a special place in hell for all kender around...

...wait... nope not hell, asmodeus wouldn't want them

abyss or abbadon

Kenderist.

Is that a place? We should set fire to it


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Darigaaz the Igniter wrote:
gustavo iglesias wrote:
Azih wrote:
Oh boy, Firearms are going to be Paladin levels of fun aren't they?
I love to mix both. I'm going to make a paladin with revolvers. Will get mount as spirit ally, and will call myself Lonely Ranger.
Don't forget to be a goblin, while you're at it.

I was planning to be a gnome, but you are right. A goblin is much better option.

Goblin paladin of Sarenrae with 2 revolvers, here I come.


Fighter, Cleric, Rogue, maybe Alchemist.

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