Hag-Haunted and Covens


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


Hey everyone,

So a Hag-Haunted Spiritualist's Phantom is the spirit of a dead hag. Could this Phantom form a Coven, and fulfill the requirement that the Coven contains a Hag?

One the on side, its a Phantom and nothing in the archetype mentions forming a Coven. On the other, it is specifically a Phantom that is the soul of a deceased hag.

I put it in General for more discussing on the pro's/con's than a straight up RAW thread.

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Since the phantom is not a hag, it wouldn't count as a hag (similarly if someone used a weapon that was bane against hags or monstrous humanoids, it wouldn't work against the phantom), and it doesn't have the coven entry or ability in any case (compare witchfires, which despite being undead and not necessarily counting as a hag, do have a coven entry, which also points out "Such covens must have at least one living hag, as covens of three witchfires gain no coven-related abilities.").

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