Escape pinned question


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In Pathfinder, you have verbiage that says "You can make an Escape Artist check in place of a combat maneuver check to escape a grapple (see Chapter 8) or to change from a pinned condition to merely grappled." (CRB 96).

I'm having trouble finding the same clarification in Starfinder CRB. Does it work the same (in that escaping a pin makes you still grappled)?


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Well, escape under the Acrobatics skill
"Attempting to escape from a grapple or pin is
a standard action. On a success, you free yourself from
the grapple or pin and no longer have the grappled or pinned condition. The DC to escape a grapple or pin is typically
10 + the grappler’s Kinetic Armor Class."

Nothing under the pinned condition says escaping a pin means you are still grappled, and nothing under grappled condition or maneuver say that either (the maneuver says they are instead pinned, not ALSO pinned, so they wouldn't have both conditions of grappled AND pinned).
so I'd say escaping a pin means you end the pinned condition. And you don't have the grappled condition, so you're free.

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