TiwazBlackhand |
I don't know if this is doable, maybe you have a list of blog topics for the playtest previews going till release, but I have a topic I'd really like to see a Blog post on.
The "Party Healer" Barbarian that keeps getting mentioned.
I would really like to have a blog post dedicated to showing us what sort of choices and options allow a Barbarian (using none of the barbarian class options) to be an effective party healer.
It doesn't have to be 100% detailed, but something like "They can do this, because they have THIS skill feat, and they can do THIS because of this ancestry feature/feat, and this power is from a general feat, and this is because they put a bunch of skill advances into this skill so they have it at Master."
Steelfiredragon |
I imagine they'll handle Alignment and Paladin in the same post just to get it all out of the way as quickly as possible XD
oh of this I have no doubt, and the funny thing is, I see them putting that blog out right before the playtest is released so they do not have to read the hate about it
now about that paladin it needs to be.... and alignment needs to be and the wizard needs to be... and high l;evel needs to be....
totoro |
I wish they would just release the rules as they are now so we don't have to keep sifting through the forums for developer comments, watching play tests and wildly speculating.
I know they can't, but it is what I wish.
There are people who love PF so much that if Paizo found a way to crowd-source editing, they would have flawless products from people who work for free. In theory. Even the most generous of playtesting is just the tip of the iceberg compared to what could be accomplished, and is not even on par with beta tests for crpgs, which can track every single choice and do common factor aggregation that is in some cases more valuable than commentary. Indeed, playtesting can result in bad (a subjective term, I know) game design choices. For example, playtesting results indicated players thought D&D 3.0 barbarians shouldn't have rage points because it is too gamey (or at least barbarians should be simple enough that you shouldn't have to track points), so barbarians were modified to accommodate the feedback. I think the Iron Heroes Berserker, which was made using that original conception of rage points, is the best iteration of a barbarian/berserker in any D&D/PF version. Playtesters were, IMO, wrong.
However, even if the data is good, too much data from disparate sources is difficult to sort and integrate. If you put the 100 greatest ideas in a game, the game might suck because the greatest ideas don't work well together. I think that is the fundamental reason why game designers only expose pieces of it to the public. They can't spend all day sifting through feedback.
And then there is marketing, which is the enemy of good design. It doesn't hurt the game to expose all of its fiddly bits to gamers. If you get too much feedback, ignore it. However, I imagine there are some folks who are experts in marketing who can show you a chart indicating lost profits for sharing too much information.
Fuzzypaws |
If you put the 100 greatest ideas in a game, the game might suck because the greatest ideas don't work well together. I think that is the fundamental reason why game designers only expose pieces of it to the public. They can't spend all day sifting through feedback.
This is very true. You can have systems that control their one thing flawlessly in a way that everyone loves... But then they either don't work with the rest of the game system, or by keeping all these disparate systems you make the rules impossible to learn / remember for the average person. Part of the compromise of game design is trying to find a best fit solution that models everything as well as you can get it while still being manageable in the context of everything else.