Random speculation about the new caster classes


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So I kind of wonder if we will be spending the class feats from wizard to gain spells or if they will just be built in on a chart to the side of the class like now. The class feats would probably be stuff like meta magic feats and some of the current wizard specialist abilities.

The possibilities if it is more of a spend a class feat to get higher level spells makes for some interesting possibilities. maybe not as much so for wizards but a cleric that didn't take as many spells but emphasize other things I know my idea for this spread from the druid who I thought could theoretically be a druid without spells but focusing on shifting or animal companion.

Even with wizard maybe their would be a way to not worry about higher level spells and kind of make yourself into a 1 (well a few anyways) trick pony. Maybe it wouldn't be great that way but would be an interesting option. Sure I can't cast 10th level spells but I can launch 30 magic missiles in a blink of an eye type thing.

I think I just am ready to see how a caster class is set up!


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Sort of like how the playtest vigilante had to invest vigilante talents into increasing levels of spell casting ability?
I'm having a difficult time imagining that making it through the playtest without riots erupting, but I could see it in theory. Seems like an awfully fiddle way to go about it though.


Yeah pretty much. Your probably right about the riots. I see what your talking about with it being fiddly would be a lot of options. I don't think it will work that way but It would make way for a lot of weird builds.

Edit: At the same time If all a fighter class features all come from the class feats by themselves it would be kind of weird for wizards to get both wizard feats and then the spell casting tacked on the side.

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Nah. Every class gets Class Features at odd levels (so 1st, 3rd, etc.) for Wizard and other casters, I expect the lion's share of those will be New Spells and New Spell Levels (especially since those are, traditionally, the levels that Wizards get new spell levels), and that they will get few other Class Features on those levels (at least as compared to Classes without spell casting).

Class Feats will remain a choice they get to make every even level, and will probably include things like metamagic feats.


Ah interesting I was under the impression all the class abilities where pick and choose. (from the class feats)

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Vidmaster7 wrote:
Ah interesting I was under the impression all the class abilities where pick and choose. (from the class feats)

Nope! Rogues still all get Sneak Attack at odd levels, for example.

The progression is:

At 1st level you get all sorts of stuff, including at least one Ancestry Feat, starting Proficiencies, and either spellcasting from your class OR a Class Feat (but not both). You also gain assorted class Features, only a few of which we know.

After that at even levels you get: A Class Feat and a Skill Feat.

And at odd levels you get: Class Features (probably including new spells), New Skill Rank or Ranks (no idea how many), and either a General Feat or Ancestry Feat (alternating).

And at every level that's a multiple of 5 you get: Ability Ups reminiscent of Starfinder.

We don't know details on how much of that works, but we have a pretty solid idea of the structure.


That probably works better mechanically. The way I was thinking was leaving me with a lot of questions. Thanks dead you da man (zombie lich thing)

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Vidmaster7 wrote:
That probably works better mechanically. The way I was thinking was leaving me with a lot of questions. Thanks dead you da man (zombie lich thing)

You're quite welcome. I'm always happy to be of assistance. :)

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