Do you Think the new Paizo webpage layout “gets in the way” of browsing / using the site?


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Yes, but...

It seems like they aren’t finished yet. There are several top level links, header links, and breadcrumbs that I would expect them to put back to maintain parity with contemporary web design aesthetics. I hope it happens before the play test launch.


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It's still being fixed in some spots.

Any major site overhaul takes a while to get used to again. At one site I frequent, you can see the same people shouting "Don't change anything" who also shouted three years ago "This is terrible, you've ruined my experience".


Currently, my only major desire is for easier access to the main forum page, rather than having to navigate through a subforum. XD I like being able to check each category for new posts.

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kaboom! wrote:

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Yes

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Absolutly

I shouldn't have to find a back way in to get to my downloads or use google to get to additional resources.


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Glewistee wrote:
kaboom! wrote:

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Yes

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Absolutly

I shouldn't have to find a back way in to get to my downloads or use google to get to additional resources.

I don’t know what “additional resources” refers to, however to get to your downloads look at the top of this page for a “my account” option. Clicking on that gives you a dropdown menu that will offer you “digital content”. I don’t use it much, but my impression is PDFs are more accessible under the new site.


You have to relearn where to find some things, but no, it doesn't get in the way IMO.

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Glewistee wrote:
kaboom! wrote:

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Yes

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Absolutly

I shouldn't have to find a back way in to get to my downloads or use google to get to additional resources.

I had to use Google to get to Additional Resources on the old site...


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What are “additional resources”?


Steve Geddes wrote:
What are “additional resources”?

It is the comprehensive list of rulebooks, supplements, and options permitted for use in pathfinder society games.


This site seems to be broken less than the old, so i'd say that's an improvement.

Though I wish this forum had a dark mode. It's just too bright.


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BigDTBone wrote:
Steve Geddes wrote:
What are “additional resources”?
It is the comprehensive list of rulebooks, supplements, and options permitted for use in pathfinder society games.

Ah. Thanks.


Yes, it "gets in the way". Look at the sucker eating up a quarter of the vertical space on a 16x9 display. (If had it loaded up i Firefox with TabMaxPlus enabled for multi-row tabs, it'd be a third of the way down before reaching content.)

A not-inconsiderably number of us use widescreen monitors, and that widened masthead is a massive space-hog. You could save a full inch of space on a 27" monitor's vertical axis just by getting rid of the extraneously black-bar space above and below each row of menu choices.


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I feel old now.

I can’t get my head around more than two tabs open at one time (if I have to). That string of little squares would make me break down, I suspect.


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At the moment it's not intuitive to find and open in a new tab either the PRD or the FAQs. Even if they change that it's still two clicks away, where before everything was right there. It's not a big thing, but it does slow you down.


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Steve Geddes wrote:

I feel old now.

I can’t get my head around more than two tabs open at one time (if I have to). That string of little squares would make me break down, I suspect.

Hah. That's nothing.

(I miss those old Radius Pivot monitors that you could swivel from landscape to portrait mode.)


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*faint*


Actually think EN World now has better layout and user-flow than paizo.com. I used to think the opposite!

Bring back the old interface(s) please.

http://www.enworld.org


Enworld is an eyesore. That blue masthead with a tiny pic occupying the far left end of and otherwise being is wasting an inch of space. Then there's an entire empty row of black of space under it with "Advanced Search" in tiny letters at the far right end. This is bad website design. (Paizo's present layout is hoggish, but at least there's more than one thing in each row.)

Scrunch it up tight, people. Somewhere you'll have an "About" button, and that can lead to your fancy splash artwork.


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this new look is BAD!!!!!!!!!!!


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Nope, I love the look of the site and think it is a huge improvement over the old version.


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Yes. It might be prettier, but from a functionality/ease of use perspective I find it awful. My visits to Paizo are probably down 90% at this point - the experience is that bad.

It's helping kill off any interest in Pathfinder 2.0 I might have had.

Way more clicks to get to the same pages. Links that are/were broken. Myriad other issues we've seen in other threads. And don't get me started on mobile - doesn't seem to scale properly, just agony to navigate. I don't even bother trying on my smartphones these days.

Oh, but it's prettier. Did I mention that? >:-(


One peeve is that as far as I can tell there is no way to directly go to the PRD while I am in the forums. I have to open another tab back to the main page use a drop down and then open that link to get there.


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I miss the sidebar. Made it easier to notice new and potentially interesting threads. That's about it.

But then I mostly focus on the forums and once you're to the top level of the forums, there's not that much change.

Scarab Sages

No. Looks better, is more responsive. Major improvement.


yes. I am unsure if it is just me (maybe a cookies thing?), but I have had times when I could not return to the forum for days because every single actions would just boot me to the front page- entering addresses into my browser's search bar, attempting to click on options through the front page's drop down menu, etc.

I get that paizo wanted to direct people to the front page because the old addresses would not work anymore. But for those cursed by machines, this ends up as a problem.

Besides that, it is fine. I can get used to entering new addresses and such. The look is nice enough.

Grand Lodge

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No, the broken links and inconsistencies are what get in the way, not the layout. (I do miss the side bar.)

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GM Rednal wrote:
Currently, my only major desire is for easier access to the main forum page, rather than having to navigate through a subforum. XD I like being able to check each category for new posts.

We have restored direct access to the forums if you click the community link at the top of the page

Dean

Silver Crusade

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Yay! Thankies web team!


Navigation really is feeling smoother.


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Yes, it does look nice but i found the old site easier to use


ratcatbo wrote:
Yes, it does look nice but i found the old site easier to use

me too


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My biggest complaint about the new site is that it's annoying to try to get from putting in a new post back to my campaign tab. It used to be a scroll and click, and now it's long scroll and click and click and click.

The only workaround I've found is to constantly open every campaign with new posts in a new window, then go click on the new windows, and then close the windows when done. It's one less click, but still a pain in the $*$#&*$&.


I personally liked the old site better. It was easier to find things for one, and it seemed to load faster.

It seems like a lot of companies have started going to having a site that is flashy and pretty over functional, failing to take into consideration that seem people may not have connections that can support this as well as being less intuitive.

It's almost like the thought it "if we make things more difficult but nicer looking then they will stay longer" not realizing most people aren't going to do so.


Yes.

No sidebar in the forums means it's much more annoying to actually find new stuff. No sidebar in the blog means I never go to the non-main blogs anymore (and I would have to do some digging just to find the store blog.)

Plus... my post on the subject seems to have been deleted at some point, but the new forums have never loaded correctly for me in my version of Firefox. Text overlaying text and section headers where they shouldn't be VERY MUCH gets in the way of using the forums.


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shaventalz wrote:

Yes.

No sidebar in the forums means it's much more annoying to actually find new stuff. No sidebar in the blog means I never go to the non-main blogs anymore (and I would have to do some digging just to find the store blog.)

Plus... my post on the subject seems to have been deleted at some point, but the new forums have never loaded correctly for me in my version of Firefox. Text overlaying text and section headers where they shouldn't be VERY MUCH gets in the way of using the forums.

I do really miss the old sidebar.


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shaventalz wrote:
Plus... my post on the subject seems to have been deleted at some point, but the new forums have never loaded correctly for me in my version of Firefox. Text overlaying text and section headers where they shouldn't be VERY MUCH gets in the way of using the forums.

My guess is uBlock Origin or something similar. I find that the new site has a number of external dependencies that the old one didn't. Jquery.com for instance. If you don't whitelist everything it needs, things get screwy.

But maybe what I've seen isn't what you've got. I basically don't browse the site beyond the forum anymore. The old home page had a massive information density, which had a chance of something interesting catching my eye. Now the home page has a rotating pile of my-eye-is-trained-to-ignore-this-sort-of-advertising-like-panels, and little else, so there's no point in me visiting it.

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