Efficient Quiver: A doubt...


Rules Questions


Hi all,
I was wondering something about the Efficient Quiver:

It seems to act as a sort of extra-dimensional container, but...

"Once the owner has filled it, the quiver can quickly produce any item she wishes that is within the quiver, as if from a regular quiver or scabbard."

...I was wondering if "produce any item" means really "craft/manufacture" it, because it could also mean "bring out"...

...however, if the quiver was crafting it, that would have been a lot more cool! :)

Skarm


you can only take out what you put in. So unless the quiver dematerializes whatever you put in only to materialize it back according to your whim, it's an extra-dimensional effect.


Wiktionary, Produce, Verb wrote:
2. (transitive) To make (a thing) available to a person, an authority, etc.; to provide for inspection.

It's not creating things; it's an extradimensional container.


Bloodrealm wrote:
Wiktionary, Produce, Verb wrote:
2. (transitive) To make (a thing) available to a person, an authority, etc.; to provide for inspection.
It's not creating things; it's an extradimensional container.

But...there is nothing usable like that for shurikens??

Thanks,
Skarm


Skarm wrote:
Bloodrealm wrote:
Wiktionary, Produce, Verb wrote:
2. (transitive) To make (a thing) available to a person, an authority, etc.; to provide for inspection.
It's not creating things; it's an extradimensional container.

But...there is nothing usable like that for shurikens??

Thanks,
Skarm

Are we talking creating shuriken, or an efficient quiver for shuriken?

Either way, Returning quality on shuriken as a piece of ammunition. Or be a Vigilante and take the returning weapon Vigilante talent. It would require a two level dip, for just the quality, or 14th level for infinite magic shuriken.


Returning won't work, since the magic is expended once ammunition is used.

Also, ammo that hits is destroyed, and ammo that misses has a 50% chance of being destroyed or lost.

What you want is durable shuriken combined with the blinkback belt. However, you need GM approval to apply durable to shuriken rather than arrows, and possible also GM approval to use shuriken on the belt.

/cevah

Sczarni

There is also a Vigilante Ability "Returning Weapon" that works for Unlimited Ammo (thrown):

Spoiler:
Returning Weapon (Ex): The vigilante has a signature type of thrown weapon that returns to him. Choose a type of thrown weapon, such as throwing axes. Whenever the vigilante uses that type of weapon, it automatically returns as if it had the returning property. At 14th level, if the vigilante chose a type of thrown weapon that is treated as ammunition, such as shuriken, and buys a set of 50 magic ammunition of that type, he automatically replenishes them at no cost and never runs out. If he chose a non-ammunition thrown weapon instead, he can apply the magical properties of the first weapon he throws in a round to any non-magical thrown weapons of that type he throws that round. This allows him to make a full attack with the benefits of his magical thrown weapon, even though it only returns next round.

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