Warpriest + Sacred Fist + Crusader's Flurry + using a big sword = need help.


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I'm new and getting ready to start a pathfinder campaign. I've read where you could be a warpriest take Sacred fist and crusaders flurry and choose a god whose favored weapon is a bastard or great sword and do flurry of blows with the sword. This looks neat. Could you still do this and wear armor (heavy)? I'm so new to this system when I try to figure this out my head spins. :).

Could someone please help and give my a sample build and show me feat progression and traits (feats and traits are where I get most lost with this build). I want to do a two handed weapon not two weapon fighting. I'd like to be half orc but if I have to be human that's ok. I get a 25 point build for the game.

Thanks for suggestions.


Some things to note.
1) Because this works as the monk ability, you only get 1x Str to damage when Flurrying, even if two-handed a weapon. I believe this means you don't get the bonus 50% extra damage from power attack.

2) You can not wear any armor. It says it right at the top with Sacred Fists's Proficiency.
"When wearing armor, using a shield, or carrying a medium or heavy load, a sacred fist loses his AC bonus and flurry of blows."

3) You also are not proficient in armor, meaning you would take the armor check penalty to your attack rolls as well, unless you took the feat for it.

4) You give up Weapon Focus for Sacred Fist, so you would have to take Weapon Focus before taking Crusader's Flurry.

If you are just trying to cheese and spam attacks with a Great Sword, I suggest just going a normal War Priest. Sacred Fist is considered a pretty meh archetype.


SorrySleeping wrote:

Some things to note.

1) Because this works as the monk ability, you only get 1x Str to damage when Flurrying, even if two-handed a weapon. I believe this means you don't get the bonus 50% extra damage from power attack.

Power attack doesn't care about how much the weapon is doing, only how it's wielded. That's the perk of using a 2H instead of 1H is the power attack bonus.

But I do agree with the rest of your points.

Options for OP, go normal warpriest and dip into Sohei core monk for armor or Unchained monk for 1.5 str on flurry attacks, Yes your flurry won't scale but you'll still be getting 1 extra attack which is nice.


Do note that Sohei only gets light armor training, and while he can flurry with armor (and any martial weapon), the DM may rule that you can't flurry with heavier armor.

As for unchained, same problem. You can't do anything while armored. One note is, since you are taking a full monk dip, you get wisdom to AC (touch and flat footed).


SorrySleeping wrote:
Do note that Sohei only gets light armor training, and while he can flurry with armor (and any martial weapon), the DM may rule that you can't flurry with heavier armor.

In that case, he might as well veto the whole armor thing. Either use what's written and confirmed by FAQ, or houserule the whole thing to be in line with the original author's intend, doing a half-way split would be rather weird.


doesn't the FAQ say sohei can only flurry in light? I can't check right now because the FAQ won't actually load on new site design for me...

Grand Lodge

Quote:

Monk, Sohei: Can a sohei use flurry of blows while wearing light armor?

Yes (but not medium or heavy armor). However, a sohei does not gain his monk AC bonus class feature when wearing armor.

The next printing of Ultimate Combat will be changed to reflect this ruling.


That said, if you take the Armor Training trait, the one that reduces armor check penalty by one, then wear a mithral breastplate, then because it's mithral, it's treated as light armor for all purposes but proficiency, and because its armor penalty is now zero, whether or not you're proficient is irrelevant.


SorrySleeping wrote:
Do note that Sohei only gets light armor training, and while he can flurry with armor (and any martial weapon), the DM may rule that you can't flurry with heavier armor.

Yeah but you can go up to mithral medium which is quite good armor.

Ninja'd


plaidwandering wrote:
doesn't the FAQ say sohei can only flurry in light? I can't check right now because the FAQ won't actually load on new site design for me...

Oops, should have checked that. I apologize!


Derklord wrote:
SorrySleeping wrote:
Do note that Sohei only gets light armor training, and while he can flurry with armor (and any martial weapon), the DM may rule that you can't flurry with heavier armor.
In that case, he might as well veto the whole armor thing. Either use what's written and confirmed by FAQ, or houserule the whole thing to be in line with the original author's intend, doing a half-way split would be rather weird.

The sohei can only flurry while wearing light armor. FAQ

That said, medium mithral armor counts as light armor for class abilities. FAQ

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